Surfrider Foundation will have its first Panhandle Chapter meeting Nov. 18, 2006. We are hoping to do this 1-3pm at Fat Daddy's Pizza. Please Pm for more details and stay posted for complete details.
Thanks,
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98Beach Lover
I am not the director. As I stated earlier our territory is PC to Pensacola. My role has been more about Fund raising, education, beach cleanup and new members. It seems we have issues on every corner. I will address this issue at the next meeting if you would like to attend? A couple of our members live in BMB so I am sure they would be more helpful then me. I need more info on the subject to comment. I was unaware this was a high-impact use. I was told this was a beach walkover that could be used by Redfish and the general public. I must say I like beach walkovers. Its how we get to the beach so we can go on our long walks.
Bobby J...who in the world told you this "pleasant gated experience" (as described by Orchard Group representives) was to be PUBLIC! This whole discussion has been about Redfish Village's attempt to provide a deeded gated beach access location for their owners, guests, renters and invitees!!! If you run the numbers, they will be dropping off 100 to 300 folks a day during the season on a 75 foot wide beach...that seems pretty high-impact to me, and your organization's charter states it works for low-impact beach use.
Bobby, your office is across the street from Redfish Village; on my walks I have even picked up you named sales sign after it was blown over and put it back up so folks could see your name as they drove down C-30A. How could you have not know what is going on across the street or in your own sales backyard? You are a well known and respected realtor here.
Beach FanaticAuthor
Thanks for picking up that sign. I know about the issue but have gotten many different takes on it. It is in my own backyard but please remember we have a territory from PC to Pensacola. Bobby the realtor should probably be more plugged into the issue but Surfrider is such a new chapter the focus has been on trying to keep the Chapter alive and learn about the whole territory. Jack S has talked about it and has let us know that the BMB homeowners are fighting this issue. Surfrider does not want to come out of the gate fighting every issue but be used more as a tool for the community to learn from. Commissioners can call a local chapter and ask what we have done in other areas. They have the history to provide some great resources of what the effects will be when we react before we think. My hopes is the commisioners will say "What did they do in Ca. when this issue came up"? We can provide facts.
As far as the issue being high impact and what I have learned today... Bobby the realtor does not support high impact use on these lots. I may learn more and change my mind but as I sit right now I do not support it. As far as the Surfrider group? I will consult at the next meeting and give you the groups take on the issue. I feel it will be the same as mine.
The positive of this thread is I have learned about something that I should have been looking at a little closer. It gets pretty overwhelming but BMB you bring up a good point. This is my back yard and If I want to be accepted in BM, I need to wake up (Recent Seagrove Transplant).
BMB, I will post the next meeting soon and I truly hope you make it out. I feel The Surfrider Group is looking out for all of our best interest and can only be a positive in every beach community.
As far as the issue being high impact and what I have learned today... Bobby the realtor does not support high impact use on these lots. I may learn more and change my mind but as I sit right now I do not support it. As far as the Surfrider group? I will consult at the next meeting and give you the groups take on the issue. I feel it will be the same as mine.
The positive of this thread is I have learned about something that I should have been looking at a little closer. It gets pretty overwhelming but BMB you bring up a good point. This is my back yard and If I want to be accepted in BM, I need to wake up (Recent Seagrove Transplant).
BMB, I will post the next meeting soon and I truly hope you make it out. I feel The Surfrider Group is looking out for all of our best interest and can only be a positive in every beach community.
Beach Fanatic
Isn't this whole thread being read wrong. My understanding about surfrider and its efforts is one that would surely benefit BMBWalker and all of us who get access to BMB via the public access point. BMBWalker, this organization is an asset to you, especially from reading that you walk BMB everyday.
superJfunn

i heart the surfrider foundation. thanks for keeping us informed bobby j.
Beach Lover
I am not the director. As I stated earlier our territory is PC to Pensacola. My role has been more about Fund raising, education, beach cleanup and new members. It seems we have issues on every corner. I will address this issue at the next meeting if you would like to attend? A couple of our members live in BMB so I am sure they would be more helpful then me. I need more info on the subject to comment. I was unaware this was a high-impact use. I was told this was a beach walkover that could be used by Redfish and the general public. I must say I like beach walkovers. Its how we get to the beach so we can go on our long walks.
Bobby J...you might want to ask the Walton Sun for a correction. Here's a portion of their article about your organization:
"The Surfrider Foundation remains concentrated on beach issues such as water quality and beach condition. Staying focused on a few issues, rather than tackling too wide a range of topics, keeps the organization useful, said Bobby Johnson, another of Surfrider?s board members."
Any chance of getting that IRS identification number for Surfrider when you go into your office today or tomorrow? Just send it through the thread. Thanks.
SoWal Expert
Bobby J...you might want to ask the Walton Sun for a correction. Here's a portion of their article about your organization:Pardon my crass question, but what the heck are you going to do with the id number? My guess is that you just like to watch people jump. Are you retired military?
"The Surfrider Foundation remains concentrated on beach issues such as water quality and beach condition. Staying focused on a few issues, rather than tackling too wide a range of topics, keeps the organization useful, said Bobby Johnson, another of Surfrider?s board members."
Any chance of getting that IRS identification number for Surfrider when you go into your office today or tomorrow? Just send it through the thread. Thanks.
Beach Fanatic
Bobby J...you might want to ask the Walton Sun for a correction. Here's a portion of their article about your organization:
"The Surfrider Foundation remains concentrated on beach issues such as water quality and beach condition. Staying focused on a few issues, rather than tackling too wide a range of topics, keeps the organization useful, said Bobby Johnson, another of Surfrider?s board members."
Any chance of getting that IRS identification number for Surfrider when you go into your office today or tomorrow? Just send it through the thread. Thanks.
What needs to be corrected about this statement from Bobby J? I just do not get what your gripe with Surfrider and Bobby J is. Do you not use BMB and the access everyday? What surfrider is trying to do is protect your rights to the beach, keep the beaches clean, and make our community better. Would you please esplain what you are really getting at.
needs to get out more
yes, please respond to peaboy, i can't wait.
it is amazing that some think that they have the skills to operate on the internets, when clearly TFM was not referenced. the incessant requests for something that is public record and quite easlily attained is one example. the numerous calls for a retraction/correction of something published in a periodical, another. the references via crossposting to unrelated threads, yet another. it's embarrassing to witness, yet quite amusing to watch, like the village gimp. BMBW, please continue posting, they're priceless, and are providing much entertainment.
it is amazing that some think that they have the skills to operate on the internets, when clearly TFM was not referenced. the incessant requests for something that is public record and quite easlily attained is one example. the numerous calls for a retraction/correction of something published in a periodical, another. the references via crossposting to unrelated threads, yet another. it's embarrassing to witness, yet quite amusing to watch, like the village gimp. BMBW, please continue posting, they're priceless, and are providing much entertainment.
Beach Lover
Pardon my crass question, but what the heck are you going to do with the id number? My guess is that you just like to watch people jump. Are you retired military?
SJ...I would like to look into Surfrider's status and the ID number makes it easier.
No, I'm not retired military. Are you?
BTW, I see nothing crass in your question. Why do you?
Beach Fanatic
SJ...I would like to look into Surfrider's status and the ID number makes it easier.
No, I'm not retired military. Are you?
BTW, I see nothing crass in your question. Why do you?
I just pulled several years' worth of 990's and other information (including this number you are so desperate for) on Surfrider in just a few clicks and types. Put a little effort into it and you may come across a little less jerky.
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Beach FanaticAuthor
Bobby J...you might want to ask the Walton Sun for a correction. Here's a portion of their article about your organization:
"The Surfrider Foundation remains concentrated on beach issues such as water quality and beach condition. Staying focused on a few issues, rather than tackling too wide a range of topics, keeps the organization useful, said Bobby Johnson, another of Surfrider?s board members."
Any chance of getting that IRS identification number for Surfrider when you go into your office today or tomorrow? Just send it through the thread. Thanks.
BMB,
I pulled the number from the internet. Very easy to get (95-3941826)
What part of the "comment" should I get Walton Sun to fix. Please be more direct. I have been as straight forward with you as I know how but feel like you are trying to find or look for something down the rabbit hole.... We are on the same team. Try to take a look at this thing that way.
needs to get out more
the cat's out of the bag now.
the elusive number(three clicks away) has been delivered. bobby, i will hold you accountable for the inevitable downfall of surfrider.
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Beach FanaticAuthor
I remain puzzled 

Beach Lover
BMB,
I pulled the number from the internet. Very easy to get (95-3941826)
What part of the "comment" should I get Walton Sun to fix. Please be more direct. I have been as straight forward with you as I know how but feel like you are trying to find or look for something down the rabbit hole.... We are on the same team. Try to take a look at this thing that way.
Bobby J...thanks for the IRS ID number.
In post #9, the Walton Sun's David Magliano quotes you and then identifies you as a board member; board members are directors of organizations.
In post #68 I identified you as a director.
In post #70 you denied being a director.
I would think you would want the public to have the correct percecption of your position with Surfrider; since the Walton Sun has mistakenly put you in a leadership position at the highest level, I thought you might want them to correct the article.
Beach FanaticAuthor
Bobby J...thanks for the IRS ID number.
In post #9, the Walton Sun's David Magliano quotes you and then identifies you as a board member; board members are directors of organizations.
In post #68 I identified you as a director.
In post #70 you denied being a director.
I would think you would want the public to have the correct percecption of your position with Surfrider; since the Walton Sun has mistakenly put you in a leadership position at the highest level, I thought you might want them to correct the article.
I am one of many board members. I originally read your question as am I "the director"? Please excuse my confusion. Looking back over these threads you correctly identified me as a director. I told you I get jumbled up.
Beach Lover
I am one of many board members. I originally read your question as am I "the director"? Please excuse my confusion. Looking back over these threads you correctly identified me as a director. I told you I get jumbled up.
Bobby J...please stop denegrating yourself! I don't see your postings as being jumbled. By in large, they are well thought out and well written. I have been impressed with a lot of your postings in content and expression.
Please stop with the jumbled stuff. You are not that.
Thanks again for the ID number
Beach Lover
It would seem that some people are opposed to the people having a voice in beach access issues. For far to long the beachfront has had the only voice. They have proven that they do not have our interests at heart. From red sand to seawalls they have provided a current example of Hardin's tragedy of the commons. The ocean belongs to us all, as a mother. BMB.....it is a very mean brother, that would keep his brother from the mother!
SoWal Expert
...BMBWalker, I am just dying to know what you find out using the ID number. Please share that info with us.
Thanks again for the ID number
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SoWal Expert
With simply one click, once on surfrider.org, it is easy to see the interests of the organization. Here is one:
"
CAMPAIGNS

Florida Beach Access Amendment

Initiative: Beach Access

Chapter(s): Florida - state wide

Description: The Florida Open Beaches Act would ensure that citizens are able to save existing accesses to Florida beaches, all of which are designated as public shore land under the Florida Constitution. A key feature of the act addresses the increasingly problematic issue of gaining perpendicular access as the coast becomes more further developed. Among U.S.'s three largest coastal states, only Florida does not have a comprehensive law to protect citizens' access to public beaches. We scored an important victory in early 2005 by securing a legislative sponsor for the act and a legal battle in Ponte Vedra. We continue to gather public support for this act.
Contact Email: edavanzo@surfrider.org
Learn More"
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BMBW, before beating yourself up and questioning everything, take 30 seconds to at least read about the basics of the organization. You could save yourself and everyone else the hassles of answered questions which have already been addressed. ;-)
"
Florida Beach Access Amendment
Initiative: Beach Access
Chapter(s): Florida - state wide
Description: The Florida Open Beaches Act would ensure that citizens are able to save existing accesses to Florida beaches, all of which are designated as public shore land under the Florida Constitution. A key feature of the act addresses the increasingly problematic issue of gaining perpendicular access as the coast becomes more further developed. Among U.S.'s three largest coastal states, only Florida does not have a comprehensive law to protect citizens' access to public beaches. We scored an important victory in early 2005 by securing a legislative sponsor for the act and a legal battle in Ponte Vedra. We continue to gather public support for this act.
Contact Email: edavanzo@surfrider.org
Learn More"***********************
BMBW, before beating yourself up and questioning everything, take 30 seconds to at least read about the basics of the organization. You could save yourself and everyone else the hassles of answered questions which have already been addressed. ;-)
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Beach Lover
Bobby J, you do not need to keep saying your words get jumbled up. From reading every post in this thread, you have made complete sense. The only one who seems to be confused is this BMBWalker person, and he may be on crack...
needs to get out more
BMBW, how's things going with that number? Please provide information on what has been unearthed so far.
Meow
BMBW, how's things going with that number? Please provide information on what has been unearthed so far.
Maybe he is still counting?

SoWal Expert
Interesting comments...what is meant by "maintaining the area's beaches in the future"; aren't they maintained well now? They look and seem to function better now than they did in mid-July 2005.Are you wrong? Yes, and also misleading. You state that you can't afford Gulf front property at today's prices, yet you also state in another thread that you own Gulf front property. Surfrider has many statements which also includes their mission statement, which doesn't state anything about the organization wanting to have control of the beaches, neither private nor public.
Also, how many Surfrider Foundations advocates own Gulf front property? I can't afford Gulf front property at today's prices, but I certainly have no right to infringe on the rights of Gulf front property owners and it sounds like you folks want to have control of the beach property without paying for it. Am I wrong?
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