Surfrider Foundation will have its first Panhandle Chapter meeting Nov. 18, 2006. We are hoping to do this 1-3pm at Fat Daddy's Pizza. Please Pm for more details and stay posted for complete details.
Thanks,
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Meow
I've always heard that when you have to call people names in a discussion, you have lost the discussion.
...STOP IT, BMBW!!!! Hard headed is not name calling. It really sounds like you have a beef with Smiling JOe and Bobby J! Do you? 
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Beach Lover
I haven't researched Surfrider too much, but "open access" does not mean the ability to tresspass on private property owners land to enter the beach. Access, refers to a point of entry. Again, you are being rather stubborn and come off rather hard headed.
Since we obviously don't agree, and therefore I am hard headed, does that mean you, on the other side of the discussion, are soft headed?
Shame.
Beach Lover
No. Can't we have a civil discussion about BMB issues without getting hysterical, start calling names, and exaggerating positions of interest?
needs to get out more
No. Can't we have a civil discussion about BMB issues without getting hysterical, start calling names, and exaggerating positions of interest?
with apologies to wikipedia;
Mass hysteria
Main article: Mass hysteria
The term also occurs in the phrase mass hysteria to describe mass public near-panic reactions. It is commonly applied to the waves of popular medical problems that "someone repeatedly asks the same thing over and over" in response to news articles.
A similar usage refers to any sort of "public wave" phenomenon, and has been used to describe the periodic widespread reappearance and public interest in UFO reports, beach access, and similar examples. Also, when information, real or fake, becomes misinterpreted but believed, e.g. surfrider's mission statement.
Hysteria is often associated with movements like the Salem Witch Trials, McCarthyism, the First Red Scare, the Second Red Scare, Terrorism, and Satanic ritual abuse, where it is better understood through the related sociological term of moral panic over someone walking on the sand.
i think the beating the dead horse photo is about to rear it's ugly head. BMBW, still hoping for a well thought out response to any of my replies that you asked for.
Beach Lover
According to two of the five homeonwers on Montgomery St, they do not own the stretch of property located between the Gulf and the five homeonwers on Montgomery St. There was question of County abandonment of that property, but they are not claiming that property to belong to them. Didn't you go to that meeting?
Waste of time and energy...more condescending and patronizing remarks.
You know the answer to that question.
More shame.
SoWal Expert
No. Can't we have a civil discussion about BMB issues without getting hysterical, start calling names, and exaggerating positions of interest?Are you suggesting that I am exaggerating the facts? Believe me, if I were to name call, I would use some big fancy words. You are asking the same old question over and over again, and Bobby has continued to answer. You are misinterpreting the words given. That is being hard-headed. I don't know you and don't have anything agains you. You just don't seem to grasp the definitions of the words used in context. I think you are reading far to deeply into this matter.
SoWal Expert
Waste of time and energy...more condescending and patronizing remarks.BMBWalker, YOU are the one who asked the question to give specific examples of Beach Front property owners who do not own to the mean high water mark. I gave them. What is your beef? Are you just trying to stir the puddin'?
You know the answer to that question.
More shame.
Beach FanaticAuthor
This thread started as a call out to get volunteers to help join Surfrider. If anyone is reading something into this that is not there please feel free to call me at 850-865-7798 or go to the web site @ www.surfrider.org I may get my words jumbled up at times but if you look at the site and history the intention are for the good of the Beach community. Surfrider has no issues with private land unless they encroach on public land.
Beach Lover
with apologies to wikipedia;
Mass hysteria
Main article: Mass hysteria
The term also occurs in the phrase mass hysteria to describe mass public near-panic reactions. It is commonly applied to the waves of popular medical problems that "someone repeatedly asks the same thing over and over" in response to news articles.
A similar usage refers to any sort of "public wave" phenomenon, and has been used to describe the periodic widespread reappearance and public interest in UFO reports, beach access, and similar examples. Also, when information, real or fake, becomes misinterpreted but believed, e.g. surfrider's mission statement.
Hysteria is often associated with movements like the Salem Witch Trials, McCarthyism, the First Red Scare, the Second Red Scare, Terrorism, and Satanic ritual abuse, where it is better understood through the related sociological term of moral panic over someone walking on the sand.
i think the beating the dead horse photo is about to rear it's ugly head. BMBW, still hoping for a well thought out response to any of my replies that you asked for.
The guard that checked your papers last night and gave you access to BMB was fired this morning.
SoWal Expert
needs to get out more
The guard that checked your papers last night and gave you access to BMB was fired this morning.
i spit my cereal out reading that one. good thing i turned my head, or my computer would have fried. i'm still laughing. confused as to the cross-post though. but i did get a response.;-) hopefully you'll get to the bottom of this surfrider thing somehow. why not come to the next meeting?
edit/add: i still break out laughing when i see it. awesome.
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Meow
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BMBW...your attendance at a Surfrider meeting is mandatory!!!
BMBW...your attendance at a Surfrider meeting is mandatory!!!
needs to get out more
jocularity, jocularity... Father Mulcahey
SoWal Expert
:clap_1:Yes, I don't think Bobby will charge you extra for attending. :funn:Go to the meeting and spare the horse.
BMBW...your attendance at a Surfrider meeting is mandatory!!!
Beach Lover
No thanks, I don't do drugs.
Sounds to me like you smoke crack...
Beach Lover
bobby j
I DON'T KNOW YOU AND HAVE NOT BEEN TO A SURFRIDER MEETING, BUT KEEP UP THE WORK AND EFFORTS. IT TAKES GUTS TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE FOOLS RIP YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. AFTER READING THE MISSION STATEMENTS OF YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THE ITEMS IN QUESTION BY THIS BMBWALKER PERSON, MY ADICE IS TO NOT RESPOND ANY FURTHER TO THIS PERSONS FOOLISH WAY OF THINKING. HE/SHE CAN KEEP WALKING THE BEACH WHILE YOU TRY TO PROTECT IT. KUDOS TO YOU, BOOOOOO TO HIM.
I DON'T KNOW YOU AND HAVE NOT BEEN TO A SURFRIDER MEETING, BUT KEEP UP THE WORK AND EFFORTS. IT TAKES GUTS TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE FOOLS RIP YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. AFTER READING THE MISSION STATEMENTS OF YOUR ORGANIZATION AND THE ITEMS IN QUESTION BY THIS BMBWALKER PERSON, MY ADICE IS TO NOT RESPOND ANY FURTHER TO THIS PERSONS FOOLISH WAY OF THINKING. HE/SHE CAN KEEP WALKING THE BEACH WHILE YOU TRY TO PROTECT IT. KUDOS TO YOU, BOOOOOO TO HIM.
Beach Lover
This thread started as a call out to get volunteers to help join Surfrider. If anyone is reading something into this that is not there please feel free to call me at 850-865-7798 or go to the web site @ www.surfrider.org I may get my words jumbled up at times but if you look at the site and history the intention are for the good of the Beach community. Surfrider has no issues with private land unless they encroach on public land.[/quote]
Bobby...do you have any negative issues with the high-impact use of a 75 foot stretch of BMB used for commercial interest by Redfish Village? As I understand it, you are a director of Surfrider.
needs to get out more
tuck, no need too shout. it's hard on the eyes.
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Beach FanaticAuthor
This thread started as a call out to get volunteers to help join Surfrider. If anyone is reading something into this that is not there please feel free to call me at 850-865-7798 or go to the web site @ www.surfrider.org I may get my words jumbled up at times but if you look at the site and history the intention are for the good of the Beach community. Surfrider has no issues with private land unless they encroach on public land.[/quote]
Bobby...do you have any negative issues with the high-impact use of a 75 foot stretch of BMB used for commercial interest by Redfish Village? As I understand it, you are a director of Surfrider.
I am not the director. As I stated earlier our territory is PC to Pensacola. My role has been more about Fund raising, education, beach cleanup and new members. It seems we have issues on every corner. I will address this issue at the next meeting if you would like to attend? A couple of our members live in BMB so I am sure they would be more helpful then me. I need more info on the subject to comment. I was unaware this was a high-impact use. I was told this was a beach walkover that could be used by Redfish and the general public. I must say I like beach walkovers. Its how we get to the beach so we can go on our long walks.
SoWal Expert
I am not the director. As I stated earlier our territory is PC to Pensacola. My role has been more about Fund raising, education, beach cleanup and new members. It seems we have issues on every corner. I will address this issue at the next meeting if you would like to attend? A couple of our members live in BMB so I am sure they would be more helpful then me. I need more info on the subject to comment. I was unaware this was a high-impact use. I was told this was a beach walkover that could be used by Redfish and the general public. I must say I like beach walkovers. Its how we get to the beach so we can go on our long walks.I believe the spokesperson for the development stated that the walkover would be gated at the south and north entries to the property, ie- public not welcome.
Beach Lover
Are you suggesting that I am exaggerating the facts? Believe me, if I were to name call, I would use some big fancy words. You are asking the same old question over and over again, and Bobby has continued to answer. You are misinterpreting the words given. That is being hard-headed. I don't know you and don't have anything agains you. You just don't seem to grasp the definitions of the words used in context. I think you are reading far to deeply into this matter.
SJ...why would you want to use "big fancy words" to name call? Don't the small ones get the job done?
Beach Lover
BMBWalker, YOU are the one who asked the question to give specific examples of Beach Front property owners who do not own to the mean high water mark. I gave them. What is your beef? Are you just trying to stir the puddin'?
SJ...I believe you have given a response that is not an example. The Montgomery St. folks, with all their problems, are not an example; they are a legal situation that has not been fully dealt with yet. Even the county agrees with that. Since this issue has not been finalized by the residents, county and courts, it can't be used as an example because it is not a fact yet; no one has proven that what they have done is inappropriate. Some may think that, but what matters, in the long run, is simply what the courts say is appropriate or leagal, and we are not there yet.
I like beef; don't care too much for puddin.
Beach Lover
This thread started as a call out to get volunteers to help join Surfrider. If anyone is reading something into this that is not there please feel free to call me at 850-865-7798 or go to the web site @ www.surfrider.org I may get my words jumbled up at times but if you look at the site and history the intention are for the good of the Beach community. Surfrider has no issues with private land unless they encroach on public land.
Bobby J...you don't get your words jumbled up at times; you write and express yourself very well.
Beach Lover
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BMBW...your attendance at a Surfrider meeting is mandatory!!!
I'll come if you promise they won't take my beachfront access property away!!!
Beach Lover
Sounds to me like you smoke crack...
Takes one to know one !!
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