Items on the beach overnight

[BeachSiO2]

BeachSiO2,
I think you missed my main point that I had underlined:
".. all these stinkin' rules, yet they pick and choose what they post at the accesses (including the private property issue, BTW)."

The last I heard, our crime rate is much lower than New Orleans. So yes, I would expect my kayak to still be there when I got back the next day regardless of what it was chained to IF I had no knowledge of the "Remove It or Lose It" initiative.

So going back to the meat of the matter, has anyone seen these rules posted at the public accesses? How is the "public" made truly aware of this new, not so obvious rule?

My main point is blame enforcement on who it is, as the TDC is typically the target and in many cases it's not them. By the way, does anyone read the signs anyway? I don't think many people even see them but I bet there will be some signs at the major accesses reagrding this issue pretty soon.

So, you believe that someone should be able to leave stuff on the beach and expect it to be there just because there is no sign? Can you tell me where your place is at BM? I will start using that beach myself and need a good place to store stuff as it gets heavy carrying it up and down the beach access. I am guessing you don't have a sign there so it must be ok for me to do it. Don't worry, I will bring my own chain and lock.

I think this is much simpler. I was taught by my mother if I expected to keep my toys, I would have to keep up with them and not leave them at someone else's house. Why shouldn't we expect the same of adults?

 

[Smiling JOe]

I wonder how much crap is getting washed out into the Gulf right now.

 

[NoHall]

I've stayed in Gulf Trace for the last 11 years for Memorial Day weekend. I don't know if that beach is actually considered public or private. There are signs at the access, but I don't remember the exact wording. The gist is that parking is for Gulf Trace residents and their guests.

I've known for the last couple of years that they didn't want stuff on the beach overnight. There was once a sign at one time, which cited sea turtles as the reason for clearing the beach each evening. I honestly don't remember if it is still there.

You guys are gonna crucify me for this, but I'm gonna go ahead and lay it out: This year, one of my friends asked me if it was okay to leave tents up on the beach overnight. She has an infant and all the mandatory paraphernalia that infants require.

Her question was worded "Can I leave this here?" but it really meant: "Do I have to schlep the baby, the stroller, the giant bag full of baby junk, the chair AND the godforsaken tent two blocks every day just so I can sit on the beach for 20 minutes before she starts screaming?"

I heard the second question, and asked a resident, "Can she leave the tent on the beach?" The resident is a mother, so she heard the translated version and compassionately said, "I'm sure that it will be fine." My friend left the tent out there, and all the other stuff that the group left overnight (volleyball nets, sea kayaks, etc.) was left in that one little area.

I know, I know! I hear you. It's an ugly eyesore in your backyard. My friend was just there for a few days, but you have these people coming in and out all year. Therefore you have these stupid tents up all year. It's rotten for everyone.

Can someone gently tell me why there can't be some sort of compromise, such as under the walkovers? A figurative "beach locker" area where that stuff can sit overnight, maybe even in the parking lots, where I presume sea turtles don't nest?

(Don't hate me. Don't kill me. Don't ban me. I'm just sayin...)

 

[Jdarg]

I wonder how much crap is getting washed out into the Gulf right now.

I don't know, but it is raining so hard that the road looks like it is washing away!

 

[scooterbug44]

Boo-f-ing-hoo! Quit whining about having to schlep stuff back and forth to the beach and having items left there removed after 24 hours.

If you can't easily carry it all there & back, you have too much stuff. I've camped for a month with less crap then people "need" for a day at the beach. I can appreciate that for some people going to the beach, especially with kids or babies, can require more items, but perhaps if they have to carry it there and back every day, they wouldn't take so many unnecessary items.

This is one of the few places where people leave things out and expect them to be there when they return hours or days later. I'd love to see them try it back home.

Pick up after yourself! If people weren't being irresponsible slobs we wouldn't have a problem..................and if you pick up after yourself you won't have to worry abot losing any of your stuff.

 

[NoHall]

Boo-f-ing-hoo! Quit whining about having to schlep stuff back and forth to the beach and having items left there removed after 24 hours.

If you can't easily carry it all there & back, you have too much stuff. I've camped for a month with less crap then people "need" for a day at the beach. I can appreciate that for some people going to the beach, especially with kids or babies, can require more items, but perhaps if they have to carry it there and back every day, they wouldn't take so many unnecessary items.

This is one of the few places where people leave things out and expect them to be there when they return hours or days later. I'd love to see them try it back home.

Pick up after yourself! If people weren't being irresponsible slobs we wouldn't have a problem..................and if you pick up after yourself you won't have to worry abot losing any of your stuff.

Good grief. So much for a gentle discussion.

Leave the "you" out of it. I have a book and a chair, and neither of them get left.

Not my stuff, not my beach, not my problem, then. :leaving:

 

[Smiling JOe]

perhaps if they have to carry it there and back every day, they wouldn't take so many unnecessary items.

Absolutely right! Why do parents think that kids need tons of cheap plastic stuff in order to be entertained? How about letting the kid have a little imagination? Kids don't need shovels and buckets. Most kids have hands with which they can dig as deep as they need to go. Ever heard of making sand sculptures with your hands? Pleas help free the kids from all of the needless crap.

 

[Arkiehawg]

NoHall:

While I understand your issue, I tend to agree that most folks pack crap to the beach like they are on a Normandy invasion!

Regarding the new momma.....you could have educated her about the beach issue AND taught her about streamlining her accessories to the beach.

They make beach chairs with a backpack, portable umbrella (to keep those evil rays off the bambino and tada.....she would have been one mobile momma......!

Whatever happened to the ole days of a towel, lotion and maybe a cooler full of your favorite beverage in a CAN.....

 

[BlueMtnBeachVagrant]

My main point is blame enforcement on who it is, as the TDC is typically the target and in many cases it's not them. By the way, does anyone read the signs anyway? I don't think many people even see them but I bet there will be some signs at the major accesses reagrding this issue pretty soon.

So, you believe that someone should be able to leave stuff on the beach and expect it to be there just because there is no sign? Can you tell me where your place is at BM? I will start using that beach myself and need a good place to store stuff as it gets heavy carrying it up and down the beach access. I am guessing you don't have a sign there so it must be ok for me to do it. Don't worry, I will bring my own chain and lock.

I think this is much simpler. I was taught by my mother if I expected to keep my toys, I would have to keep up with them and not leave them at someone else's house. Why shouldn't we expect the same of adults?

Once more, it IS the responsibilty of TDC to make the general public aware of these rules.

We (rental property owners) collect tax on short term rentals and pay TDC because we are required to. The TDC spends this money on advertising campaigns...inviting the public from all over to the Beaches of South Walton.

Then when the public arrives, you assume that the TDC shouldn't be responsible for educating the public? Just allow the sheriff to arrest those who "thought" they were on public beach. Take away their kayaks because they "thought" they were safe back off of the beach.

So yes, I do believe it is TDC's responsibility to educate the public.

IT REALLY IS SIMPLE! Add this to the bottom of the existing "Don't do this and this and this" signs:

Don't leave items on the beach overnight - possible confiscation.

This is the core of my position on the past few posts

Am I asking too much?

 

[vancedonna]

Holy Sheet! That thing is huge! Does it belong to the blue tent train folks? I was holing for a pic of that tent city...got one?

This is unbelieveable!!!!!! I would love to meet the self-assuming ingrate who tied this up! How about I drop by their front yard and tie up my kids trampoline!

Somebody please share the sunset pictures---