Driver Pulls Gun on Cyclists This Morning

[sunspotbaby]

Florida Girl's comments are really making me so upset. I have had a lot of trauma in my life and these faulty arguments about trying to see the gun holders point of view are bringing it all back. I am so frustrated by it all that if I run into a low rent landlord in an expensive kayak it might make me snap. But if I do, I know that you will all forgive me because you understand my state of mind, the history of my trials and tribulations. Florida Girl especially will understand and defend me.

:funn:

 

[Smiling JOe]

You know, there is one part of the information here that is not present. That of the driver of the truck. You don't know what was going on in his life at the time. I'm trying to give you understanding of the mindset of locals, but without actually having his statement creates a uncomplete discussion. Have you ever had trama in your life? He could have been facing some kind of distressing situation that was completely absorbing his thoughts, and you're hand gesture probably almost sent him over the edge. You're lucky he restrained himself when he did.
Those walking trails and restaurants serving "healthy foods" are for people on vacation. Particularly in today's economic situation, local people cannot afford this kind of activity. When people have to work 2 or more jobs to make ends meet, who has time to enjoy a walking trail? Much less spend a small fortune for dinner!

I'd give you more negative rep, but I have to spread it around. I am embarrassed to live in the same town with someone who has such a mentality. I'm beginning to wonder what is so distressing in your life that you would have such thoughts.

By the way, your mindset isn't the mindset of most locals. Perhaps you need to look up the definition of local. Being a local vs being a native doesn't give you any more rights to pull a gun on someone. You don't even know whether the driver of the sparkly orange truck is a local. Seeing how I have never seen a sparkly orange truck in SoWal, I think there is a pretty good bet that the driver wasn't from here, or either they don't get out much.

 

[Smiling JOe]

... What I find difficult is the lack of concern for a fellow human being that may not be of your social status, or belief. I have friends that are legitimate American Indians also that do not like to see other people mistreated.

How do you know the social status of the driver of the truck? Do all jerks driving a sparkly orange truck who pull a gun, live in the bottom level of the social status? Your statement doesn't add up. You talk about the lack of concern for someone who would pull a gun, but you don't even acknowledge concern for the people whom encountered the gun wielding jerk. If you started reading your own advice, you might see the other side.

 

[Autumn Moon]

Reading this thread has left me feeling like I've just had an arguement with my first wife...but now I need a shower.
Perhaps all but one are missing the point, "peace- through superior firepower" or "never bring a knife to a gunfight" or even "don't ride bikes on 30A or you deserve to have your life threatened".

Let's vote: Who likes tourists?

 

[Smiling JOe]

Karma works, and it has a way of coming back and biting you in the @ss.

 

[scooterbug44]

Good Gravy!

I don't even know where to begin...............

1) There is no reason to EVER pull a gun on someone.

2) It's sad that the behavior of road cyclists has caused such discord/frustration among local drivers that it escalated to an ridiculous and unsafe incident like this.

3) I am a local, work 2 jobs, have bills to pay, have bad days, and yet don't feel the need to pull a gun on people or constantly use my geographic location or bank account balance to justify my actions.

4) Given the description and location of the driver/incident, I predict the po-po will be chatting w/ the local quite soon.

That is all!

 

[Smiling JOe]

#2 confuses me. Most road cyclists don't exhibit unusual behavior. Typically, that is the drivers of the automobiles which have the bad behavior.

 

[scooterbug44]

#2 confuses me. Most road cyclists don't exhibit unusual behavior. Typically, that is the drivers of the automobiles which have the bad behavior.

Thanks for demonstrating my point! Seriously though, the double standards for behavior and 'bikes rule and cars drool' attitude is what I was referring to. ;-)

There's a general lack of courtesy/manners on both sides. I doubt that this incident occurred because the driver had never encountered a rude cyclist.

I am not in ANY way condoning pulling a gun or reckless driving and rude behavior, but I'll certainly admit that my sympathy/outrage level was much lower than it should have been. I am SO tired of hearing the biatching about the big bad car drivers in a hurry to get somewhere (also known as driving the speed limit) and not following the rules of the road, when part of the stated justification for biking on the road is that the multi-use path is too slow and a bike rider actually stopping for a stop sign is noteworthy for its rarity. :roll:

 

[ASH]

Wow! What a thread. So many positions shown.
Chalk me up as one of the 8,000+ folks who do not agree that there is any good reason to pull a gun.
What good reason could there be.

• Late for work
• Really needed to go potty bad
• Gas pedal stuck
• House is on fire
• Blue light special in aisle 4
• 

Let's stop defending people who are overly-angry. I will not give a stupid name like road rage because that does nothing but give justification for making really poor decisions that some sleazy lawyer will use to keep someone out of jail that clearly should be locked away.

The ability to own and misuse a gun transcends income, race, religion, address, sex and color of your pickup. Some people drive beat up old vehicles so that they can make higher payments on something else like maybe a dream home. For all we know, this was the Fortune 500 guy considering a big development in Walton County who was stressing over the poor investment he made a year and a half ago.

FL girl, please try not to make it a them against us discussion. The worst thing North and South Walton needs is division.

South Walton very much needs North Walton and North Walton very much needs South Walton. And we all need the tourists or most of our incomes become directly or indirectly threatened.

Anyone disagree with these last statements

 

[Bob]

Wow! What a thread. So many positions shown.
Chalk me up as one of the 8,000+ folks who do not agree that there is any good reason to pull a gun.
What good reason could there be.

• Late for work
• Really needed to go potty bad
• Gas pedal stuck
• House is on fire
• Blue light special in aisle 4
• 

Let's stop defending people who are overly-angry. I will not give a stupid name like road rage because that does nothing but give justification for making really poor decisions that some sleazy lawyer will use to keep someone out of jail that clearly should be locked away.

The ability to own and misuse a gun transcends income, race, religion, address, sex and color of your pickup. Some people drive beat up old vehicles so that they can make higher payments on something else like maybe a dream home. For all we know, this was the Fortune 500 guy considering a big development in Walton County who was stressing over the poor investment he made a year and a half ago.

FL girl, please try not to make it a them against us discussion. The worst thing North and South Walton needs is division.

South Walton very much needs North Walton and North Walton very much needs South Walton. And we all need the tourists or most of our incomes become directly or indirectly threatened.

Anyone disagree with these last statements

I would agree that North Walton needs South Walton.