NoHall I hear you but Military institutions and Ivy League schools aren't the only place for kids. Let's give them all a wide breadth. Let em be who they are gonna be. There are many a fine school that produce many a fine academic out there.
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I would venture to guess that there are a lot of teachers who do not belong to Unions here in Walton county, as a right to work State you don't have to join or pay dues and anything negotiated by Unions, non union folks benefit from it as well as union folks do. As for getting rid of bad teachers, I don't think they have had that issue here, but I can't say that for sure. Again your belief that Unions are the problem is still without merit IMO. How much should you pay an educator/teacher in their first year? How much should you pay an educator/ teacher with 30 years in the classroom. How much should we pay for someone with an advanced degree teaching in classroom? How much should we pay an individual who sucks as a teacher but has the talent and ability to manage? I'm just curious seeing how you seem to have the answers.
I would venture to guess that there are a lot of teachers who do not belong to Unions here in Walton county, as a right to work State you don't have to join or pay dues and anything negotiated by Unions, non union folks benefit from it as well as union folks do. As for getting rid of bad teachers, I don't think they have had that issue here, but I can't say that for sure. Again your belief that Unions are the problem is still without merit IMO. How much should you pay an educator/teacher in their first year? How much should you pay an educator/ teacher with 30 years in the classroom. How much should we pay for someone with an advanced degree teaching in classroom? How much should we pay an individual who sucks as a teacher but has the talent and ability to manage? I'm just curious seeing how you seem to have the answers.
Amen to that, too. I'm having a conversation on facebook right now with a former student who left to go to a magnet school. Military school was really killing him.
But the private schools (whether they're military, fine arts, or vo-tech) have an implicit obligation to the parents who pay them to make sure their offspring do not end up living back at home and flipping burgers for a living. Not all of our students DO go to ivy leagues or the service academies. But the parents are happy to pay the 30 grand a year if they know that their young men are released back into the wild knowing how to function. Lots of private schools have the same general goal--students will have a background that will equip them to go in many directions and be self-sufficient.
That's what an educator does. A teacher is stuck with making sure that little Johnny can pass a b.s. standardized test every 3 months.
More money here in Florida WILL NOT HURT. NOT AT ALL. I speak from experience. I attend nearly weekly IEP meetings.
IEPs are Individualized Education Plans designed to meet the needs of students who can't be served on a normal education track. Let's say those with severe PTSD because there parents recently abandoned them, or severe Oppositional Defiant Disorder because, well any number of reasons, but for this purpose let's pretend they have bounced from foster home to foster home for 10 years, never spending more than a few months in a single classroom, being abused in some homes loved in others, never given a chance to become a child. Whatever you want. Or hell, they may have a learning disability. Dyslexia. ADHD. Whatever.
Your assumption that "throwing money" is not a solution begs the question. What's your answer? Kids are ****ing dying right now. NOW. There, depending on your personal attachment to the rest of society, would preclude you feeling some need to find a solution quick. Reform is good. I grant you that. Money, Right now is better. I have seen, in my professional career too many children walk away from the school system with nothing. Nothing. Nada. Their fault? Maybe in some instances, but mostly no. not really. Our fault. It is our fault. Let's own it.
Let's not hide behind hopes of reform in the future when the future is currently dying in the present.
Although reform is coming. I hope.
IEPs are Individualized Education Plans designed to meet the needs of students who can't be served on a normal education track. Let's say those with severe PTSD because there parents recently abandoned them, or severe Oppositional Defiant Disorder because, well any number of reasons, but for this purpose let's pretend they have bounced from foster home to foster home for 10 years, never spending more than a few months in a single classroom, being abused in some homes loved in others, never given a chance to become a child. Whatever you want. Or hell, they may have a learning disability. Dyslexia. ADHD. Whatever.
Your assumption that "throwing money" is not a solution begs the question. What's your answer? Kids are ****ing dying right now. NOW. There, depending on your personal attachment to the rest of society, would preclude you feeling some need to find a solution quick. Reform is good. I grant you that. Money, Right now is better. I have seen, in my professional career too many children walk away from the school system with nothing. Nothing. Nada. Their fault? Maybe in some instances, but mostly no. not really. Our fault. It is our fault. Let's own it.
Let's not hide behind hopes of reform in the future when the future is currently dying in the present.
Although reform is coming. I hope.
Forgive the grammar. I'm no longer an educator. Your children are spared.
I think pay should be based on experience, education level, and performance. The issue I have with the teachers unions is that they often stand against reform that could improve the system. I don't feel they act in the students best interests, and that to me, is wrong.
And to clarify................... when I say that "Kids are ****ing dying" there is no irony involved. Truth.
What is your basis to say that unions act against students best interest?
Or do you just dislike unions in general?
Or do you just dislike unions in general?
I forget her name - but there is a woman who is working to reform the D.C. schools. High standards, accountability, improved test scores, a safer learning environment, and HIGHER PAY AND BETTER CONDITIONS for teachers are her goals.
Guess who's fighting her every step of the way? THE UNIONS!