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30ashopper

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Right here!
Slightly off topic
Did they ever pass that law that let's Hawaii not have to respond to requests for Obama's birth certiicate?

I wonder how McCain would have responded to Katrina if he was in office. Sarahwind, how do you think the media would have treated McCain?

McCain and Bush were state autonomy advocates. If I remember correctly, the big hang up during Katrina with the federal military's involvement was getting state approval.

We currently have nation state proponents running congress and in the White House, so we should have gotten a much more robust federal response here. We didn't.

Asking how McCain would have handled this seems to me to be an attempt to deflect criticism away from our Dear Leader and his merry band of nation staters.

The question raised here, and IMHO other valid questions to ask are -why has Obama done such a lousy job thus far on this? Is this the fault of the federal government in general? What will Obama do to make sure this never happens again? and.. why are Obama apologists avoiding these important questions? :roll:
 

Geo

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Dec 24, 2006
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I disagree with all premises set forth.

Barack Obama is a Nobel Prize winner. And John McCain never won one of those. Howard Stern gets better ratings than John McCain and Rush Limbaugh combined.

Instead of posting a link to a useless irrelevant article, I will now just paste it.

Howard Allen Stern (born January 12, 1954) is an American radio personality who has hosted The Howard Stern Show on Sirius XM, an uncensored satellite radio service, since 2006. He gained national recognition in the 1990s while on terrestrial airwaves, and is known as a "shock jock" for his outspoken and controversial shows. Stern is the highest-paid radio figure in the United States.[1] He is also the most fined,[2] following a history with the Federal Communications Commission over indecency from 1986 to 2005.
Stern wished for a radio career at the age of five. While attending Boston University in 1975, he co-hosted a comedy program at the campus station, WTBU. He made his professional debut at WNTN in Newton, Massachusetts that year. In 1977, he gained on-air and managerial experience for two years at WRNW in Briarcliff Manor, New York. He showed a more open personality throughout 1979 and 1980 in mornings at WCCC in Hartford, Connecticut and WWWW in Detroit. In 1981, he paired with his news reader Robin Quivers at WWDC in Washington, D.C. to host the morning shift. In the following year, Stern worked afternoons at WNBC in New York City, where differences with management led to his firing in 1985. He was rehired at WXRK for the next 20 years before leaving for Sirius in 2005. During this time, Stern would attract a peak audience of around 20 million across 60 markets in the United States and Canada.
Stern describes himself as the "King of All Media" for his successes outside radio. Since 1987, his television career has included several late night shows and pay-per-view specials. He is the author of Private Parts (1993) and Miss America (1995), which spent a combined 36 weeks on The New York Times Best Seller list.[3] The former was made into a biographical comedy film in 1997, starring Stern and some of his radio show staff as themselves. The film grossed over $41 million in the United States alone.

Early life and education
Howard Stern was born on January 12, 1954, in New York City, to a Jewish American family (his Hebrew name is "Tzvi").[4][5] His parents Ben and Ray (n?e Schiffman) are children of Austro-Hungarian immigrants. Ellen, his elder sister of four years, is described by Stern as "completely opposite" though they maintain a good relationship.[6] Five months after Stern's birth, the family moved to the suburban area of Roosevelt on Long Island.[7]
Stern's interest in radio began when he was five years old.[8] While Ray was a homemaker for most of his childhood,[9][10] Ben was a co-owner of Aura Recording, Inc., a recording studio in Manhattan where cartoons and commercials were produced. When he would occasionally work with his father, Stern met the likes of Wally Cox, Don Adams and Larry Storch who were the voices of his favourite cartoon characters.[11] Such visits influenced him to be on the radio to talk, rather than play records. Ben was also an engineer at WHOM, an AM radio station in Manhattan,[12] where its FM sister station became WXRK in 1985. Stern would broadcast for over 20 years in his career at the station.
Stern attended Washington Rose Elementary School until the end of sixth grade,[13] followed by Roosevelt Junior-Senior High School, where at the end of the 1968-69 academic year more than three-quarters of Roosevelt's four-thousand school children were African American.[14] Stern later published his experiences, describing the abuse and beatings he received from black students.[15] In June 1969, the family moved to nearby Rockville Centre, where Stern transferred to South Side High School and graduated in the spring of 1972.
Having turned down an acceptance at Elmira College in upstate New York, Stern attended Boston University in the fall 1972 for its reputation in broadcast communications.[16] He spent the first two years at the College of Basic Studies. In 1973, he read the news, spun records and hosted interviews at the campus radio station, WTBU.[17] Stern also put on a comedy show with three elder students called the King Schmaltz Bagel Hour.[18] The four were fired during the first broadcast for a sketch called "Godzilla Goes to Harlem", though it continued for a further nine weeks after being reinstated.[16] In the fall of 1974, Stern gained admission to the School of Public Communications;[16] earning a first class FCC license the following July.[19] He gained professional experience as a newscaster, producer and air personality at WNTN in Newton, Massachusetts from August to December 1975.[20][21] He graduated magna cum laude in May 1976 with a bachelor's degree, carrying a 3.8 Grade Point Average,[18][17] and now funds a scholarship at the university.[22]
[edit] Career

See also: The Howard Stern Show, Howard Stern television shows, and Howard Stern videography and discography
[edit] Early professional radio career (1977–1981)

Among the radio stations Stern contacted after graduating was WRNW, a progressive rock station in the small village of Briarcliff Manor in Westchester County, New York. The general manager praised his audition tape, but Stern rejected offers to work. He became unsure of his potential, and questioned his future in the industry. He then took a marketing position at Benton & Bowles, a New York advertising agency, followed by a job in radio advertising.[17] Stern was contacted by the station a second time, agreeing to work a shift on December 25, 1976.[21] He was hired full-time on May 12, 1977,[23] working a six-day midday shift for four hours, for USD$96 a week before taxes.[21] While retaining his air shift, Stern became the station's program director that November, for an increased salary of $12,000.[20][24] Steering the station towards soft rock, Stern aimed for a definite sound. "We want people to turn on and know right away, 'that's WRNW, that's my station, I like it'", he told The New York Times in 1978.[24]
In early 1979, Stern spotted an advertisement in Radio & Records for a "wild, fun morning guy" at WCCC, a rock station in Hartford, Connecticut.[25] He showcased a more confident audition tape, performing flatulence routines, one-liners and played records by Robert Klein and Cheech and Chong. He was hired in the spring with no change in salary, but a busier schedule. After a four-hour air shift, he voiced and produced commercials for another four. On Saturdays, after six hours on the air, he did production work for the next three. As the public affairs director, he hosted a talk show on Sunday mornings without music, which he favoured.[25] In the summer of the 1979 energy crisis, Stern began a two-day boycott of Shell Oil Company. The station backed Stern, and the two made national news.[25] Fred Norris, the overnight disc jockey at the time, went on to be Stern's show producer and writer as of 1981. In the Arbitron ratings survey covering October–November 1979, an increase in Stern's listeners (to a 3.2% share of the listening audience) help pull WCCC ahead of rival station WHCN.[26] In March 1980, Stern left the station after being denied a $25 weekly increase in pay.[25][27]
Stern's audition tape for a morning spot at WWWW, a rock station in Detroit, Michigan, was well-received by management. Accepting a $30,000 salary, Stern made his d?but on April 21, 1980.[28][18] Stern improved his confidence, learning to become more open on the air. "I decided to cut down the barriers ... strip down all the ego ... and be totally honest", he later told Newsday.[29] He began getting noticed in the industry, having won a Billboard Award for "Album-Oriented Rock Personality of the Year For a Major Market",[30] the Drake-Chenault "Top Five Talent Search"[31] and a Michigan Rock Award for "Announcer of the Year".[32] The station however, was losing popularity to strengthening competition. Arbitron figures released in January 1981 showed WLLZ, the city's fourth rock station that emerged in August, shot to a 4.6% market share, while Stern slipped from 3% to 1.6%.[29] On January 18, 1981, WWWW switched to a more successful country music format. Much to Stern's dislike, he left the station soon after.
 

sarawind

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What do you think about the media coverage of Obama's handling of the spill? Do you believe the media is treating him better, worse or the same as Bush was after Katrina?

Do you think it's right that the journalist writing about the Palins moved in next door to them?

I know this is off topic but I'm just following your lead since you continue to hijack my media thread.

Let me know if this is too subtle a request to get you to stop doing that. I can be more direct if you like.

I know this is off
topic but I'm just following your lead since
This is a new thread, separate from the one you started.

Since you asked, I think the media has been giving President Obama a pass unlike the hue and cry during Katrina. That may not continue with the new poll out today taken by the Washington Post that has 69 percent of Americans rating the governments response negatively as compared to 62 negative rating for Katrina.

BP gets a much worse negative response. 81 % view it negatively. You can read the entire poll data here: Poll: BP Oil Spill Rated Worse Than Hurricane Katrina; Most Americans Favor Pursuit of Criminal Charges According to ABC News and Washington Post Poll - ABC News
 

sarawind

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Geo, this current article is from 2010. Rush is numero uno and Howard Stern is 32nd.

Rush Limbaugh tops talk radio rankings as usual, Glenn Beck moves up
1:58 pm March 3, 2010, by Rodney Ho



For the fourth year in a row, Rush Limbaugh is the most influential radio talk show host, according to Talkers magazine.

Limbaugh draws at least 15 million listeners a week. He remains the top-rated show on 640/WGST-AM. He’s had a field day going after Pres. Obama and the Democrats this past year. And he continues to be influential without the benefit of Fox News, which has fueled the growth of No. 2 host Sean Hannity (14 million weekly radio fans and two to three million viewers per night on Fox News) and No. 3 host Glenn Beck (9 million-plus listeners on radio and two to three million viewers per night on Fox News).

Beck’s influence has grown exponentially just in the year he’s been on Fox News and Talkers moved him up to No. 3 from No. 5 as a result.

This is not a scientific survey or poll. The magazine used the following criteria: courage, effort, impact, longevity, potential, ratings, recognition, revenue, service, talent and uniqueness.

Four Georgia-based talk show hosts made the Top 100: WSB-AM’s Neal Boortz, Clark Howard and Allen Hunt and Athens talk-show host Martha Zoller.

Conservative-leaning Libertarian Boortz, whose ratings on WSB from 8:30 a.m. to 1 p.m. in Atlanta have slipped the past year, edged up to No. 13 after falling from 9 to 10 to 14 the previous three years.

Consumer expert Howard, heard after Boortz on WSB from 1 to 4 p.m., slipped to 28 from 27, 30 and 27 the prior three years despite having a solid year in terms of affiliate growth.

Former pastor Allen Hunt, who recently started a national weekday show but continues to operate locally on weekends on WSB-AM, debuted at No. 41 last year and moves up to 37.

Martha Zoller, who moved from WDUN-AM to WXKT-FM a few months ago in the Athens area, is a regular on various cable news shows. She debuted last year at No. 91 and moves up to 89.

Michael Savage, heard from 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. on WSB-AM, is ranked No. 4, down from 3.

Dr. Laura Schlessinger, on from 1 to 3 p.m. on 1160/WCFO-AM in Atlanta, falls a slot to No. 5.

She’s not to be confused with Laura Ingraham, who is also on WCFO-AM from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. The conservative talker holds at No. 6.

Dave Ramsey, the consumer/money management advocate, now has a show on Fox Business and holds at No. 7 after climbing from 12 in 2008 and 21 in 2007.

Growing conservative talker Mark Levin, at No. 8, is now the evening syndicated host on 640/WGST from 7 to 11 p.m.

Lou Dobbs, the crusty independent who lost his CNN show last year but continues to do a radio show, slips from 8 to 9. He’s heard from 7 to 9 p.m. on WCFO in Atlanta.

At No. 10 is the top liberal talker Thom Hartmann. He’s not heard locally.

Mancow, heard on WCFO from 3 to 7 p.m. is ranked No. 14, down from No. 9. Legal expert Bill Handel, heard on weekends on WSB-AM, is at No. 18.

Mike Gallagher, on air from 8 to noon on 920/WGKA-AM, is No. 19, down from 15 in 2009 and 9 in 2008 and 8 in 2007.

Don Imus, on mornings on WCFO, keeps falling, from 7 to 20 to 21. Michael Medved, heard from 3 to 6 p.m. on WGKA, falls to 23 from 21 and 20 the past two years. WGKA morning host Bill Bennett holds at No. 25 for the fourth year in a row. Howard Stern, who presides over at Sirius XM, holds at 32. When he was on FM radio in 2006, he ranked No. 1. (Bubba the Love Sponge, who is on Sirius XM and FM, is at No. 45)

Weekend tech gal Kim Komando, heard locally on WSB-AM, is at No. 39, down from 24 in 2007, 36 in 2008 and 37 in 2009. Dennis Prager, heard from noon to 3 on WGKA, is at No. 40. Hugh Hewitt, on at 6 to 9 p.m. on WGKA, is at No. 67, up from 71.

Terry Gross, host of “Fresh Air” and heard at 7 p.m. weekdays on WABE-FM, is ranked No. 70.

Talkers also lists 150 other radio personalities in a miscellaneous 101-250 list. Most are not heard here. The only Atlanta-based crew to make it is the 2 Live Stews, heard from 1 to 4 p.m. on 790/The Zone and syndicated on Sporting News Radio. Syndicated Colin Cowherd, heard on 680/The Fan from 10 to noon weekdays, is also included.

Syndicated morning hosts Tom Joyner (Kiss 104.1) Steve Harvey (Majic) and Rickey Smiley (Hot) are more entertainers than talk show hosts so they are not on the list. Syndicated Rev. Al Sharpton and Warren Ballentine on WAOK-AM get no love either.
 

beachwanabe

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Jul 11, 2005
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I don't know why Obama just doesn't put on his superman suit, dive 5k feet in the ocean, another 13k feet down, plug the damn thing.

Then get on one of the relief well rigs and state "mission accomplished".

The reality of this all really sucks, come on America there is more greed to be had. More sand to darken, more wildlife and marine life waiting to gasp for air. Those of you that are concerned about the politics in this disaster are lost in life.

I just love how Obama is being pressed to let deep oil drilling continue ASAP.
 

sarawind

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Jul 9, 2005
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Wait, I'm confused. You mean there are separate threads where we can discuss separate topics and you don't like me hijacking your thread with irrelevant nonsense?
 
:sarc:
:bang:

:wave:

Happy to have you!
 

sarawind

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I don't know why Obama just doesn't put on his superman suit, dive 5k feet in the ocean, another 13k feet down, plug the damn thing.

Then get on one of the relief well rigs and state "mission accomplished".

The reality of this all really sucks, come on America there is more greed to be had. More sand to darken, more wildlife and marine life waiting to gasp for air. Those of you that are concerned about the politics in this disaster are lost in life.

I just love how Obama is being pressed to let deep oil drilling continue ASAP.

This is about politics. Go to CNN, FOX online , in the newspapers and under their headings, Politics, is where all the oil articles are located.

Where is Jack Bauer when we need him!?! He could stop the gusher.
 

30ashopper

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I don't know why Obama just doesn't put on his superman suit, dive 5k feet in the ocean, another 13k feet down, plug the damn thing.

Then get on one of the relief well rigs and state "mission accomplished".


Exactly! I mean, the guy flies unicorns and slides down rainbows, why can't he fix a darn leaking pipe?


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