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Matt J

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May 9, 2007
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Andy A and Idlewind, could you explain where your outrage was when Dick Cheney outed Valerie Plame? That not only put her life in jeopardy, but actually cost the lives of US spies. Why is Dick Cheney not on your firing squad list?

BTW, before you start acting like the past doesn't matter and that issue has passed I'll remind you that the current links aren't being attributed to deaths nor the risk of death for anyone except the author.
 

AndrewG

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Mango

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Apr 7, 2006
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A news outlet should never have access to classified information in the first place. The blame should be put on whoever leaked that information to them, but the media shouldn't be expected to ascertain whether or not information they receive is secret or top secret. At least they shouldn't have a legal obligation to do so. Charge the leaker with treason maybe, but not the media. There's a link on this page that has a video about Bradley Manning, the Private who leaked the information.

U.S. cable: Karzai intervened for drug traffickers - U.S. news - Security - msnbc.com

I disagree. The name WikilLeaks says it all. When they do not take the time to check their source, they become complicit and should be charged with espionage. To me, it's like not charging a drug trafficker with a crime because they only provided an outlet to the drug addict.

Guys like Assange are driven by beating the system and rival hackers because they can do it, not by true exposure, transparency or journalistic reporting, IMHO. When you take cables from officials working for governments, he knows quite well that that information is not to go beyond those walls, but he reports it anyway. He's dangerous and should be treated as such.
 
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Matt J

SWGB
May 9, 2007
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I disagree. The name WikilLeaks says it all. When they do not take the time to check their source, they become complicit and should be charged with espionage. To me, it's like not charging a drug trafficker with a crime because they only provided an outlet to the drug addict.

Guys like Assange are driven by beating the system and rival hackers because they can do it, not by true exposure, transparency or journalistic reporting, IMHO. When you take cables from officials working for governments, he knows quite well that that information is not to go beyond those walls, but he reports it anyway. He's dangerous and should be treated as such.

Has anyone actually been to wikileaks.com? I did and they clearly state that they check and verify the information. Just because you don't like what they are releasing or you considered it dangerous classified material doesn't mean that they aren't following basic reporting guidelines.

IIRC there were some reporters in the sixties that were called traitors and accused of espionage.
 

poppy

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Sep 10, 2008
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Wikileaks is a terrorist organization. We should act to shut the servers down by any means neccessary, seize assets, apprehend Assange, try him and shoot him. The "soldier" who leaked the documents should be tried and shot following conviction. The only way to stop treason and placing human lives in danger for no reason is to deal with it harshly.


I agree, now what should we do with these guys?

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Mango

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Apr 7, 2006
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Has anyone actually been to wikileaks.com? I did and they clearly state that they check and verify the information. Just because you don't like what they are releasing or you considered it dangerous classified material doesn't mean that they aren't following basic reporting guidelines.

IIRC there were some reporters in the sixties that were called traitors and accused of espionage.

What I meant by checking the source was checking how the person submitting the info obtained the intel. Those cables they received are different than someone sending in a conference they overheard over lunch in a public place. These people submitting the info all signed confidentiality agreements when hired, especially when working for a government agency. People get this kind of intel all the time and sell it. They are called spies. Just because WikilLeaks posts it online makes them journalists?
 

AndrewG

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It's interesting how Wikileaks was regarded as ok when they were releasing Bush era info. Now that the info is revealing Obama's term it's time to arrest him...
 
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