It's a little graphic. I'm guessing the folks they plan to drag behind cars and blowtorch just aren't understanding enough of the nuanced Middle East culture.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0524072torture1.html
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Please, we do NOT need to hear anymore IMO. :bang:
Please keep this in mind folks when you reply to this troll and take a look at the threads he has started.
there's also a group called the Rendon Group that is all about controlling public opinion on government actions that people are reporting on their site meters. Considering that the Rendon Group has contracts from BushCo to spread pro-war propaganda, it's hard to imagine that they aren't also targeting left-leaning blogs, possibly trying to circumvent productive anti-war discussion by bomb-throwing and other nonsense. Something to keep an eye out for--if you have right wing trolls that only comment on certain topics, especially if they just generate generic talking points, there's a solid chance they are a troll-for-hire.
OMG! Well maybe we should give 6thGen the benefit of the doubt and give him the chance to answer a question only someone actually in Sowal would know.
6thGen- Describe what the owner of Red Bar looks like.
I do hope he proves himself to be a home grown misguided neo-con nut job instead of an imported one, as I do enjoy kicking him around.........
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OMG! Well maybe we should give 6thGen the benefit of the doubt and give him the chance to answer a question only someone actually in Sowal would know.
6thGen- Describe what the owner of Red Bar looks like.
I do hope he proves himself to be a home grown misguided neo-con nut job instead of an imported one, as I do enjoy kicking him around.........
You and Mango have now entered into paranoid schizophrenia. Not that I'm surprised. I'll get to your questions when I have a minute. I would like to see where you think you've kicked me around, though. If you can point some of that out I'd appreciate it.
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Thanks for bringing this up. What were American's and the military's reaction to Abu Grahb (sic)? And what is the position taken by the leaders of al Qaeda? What was our justice department's take on lynchings or on Berry, Brewer and King? What was the rest of the world's take on the Holocaust? Thanks for saving me time and making my point.
That doesn't make your point at all. How many million Jews died before the world reacted?
Abu Ghraib. The military served up a couple of hillbilly yokels that supposedly masterminded that. Give me a break.
The point was that sick people do sick things in America as well. When taken out of context , these things look just as bad. Your main complaint seems to be that the response to terrorism by Muslims is not vocal and vehement enough for your tastes.
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That wasn?t your point at all. You were implying that violent behavior by some condemns an entire group to ?animal? status. And therefore your very nuanced response is a red herring at best. Typical.
Funny that you raise the subject of Abu Grahb, since the Bush Admin squealed like a stuck pig when the images were published, and then moved to suppress the publishing of any more images, claiming the pictures would incite violence and hatred of US forces in Iraq. They probably would. Kind of like the way your post is attempting to do the same, but in reverse.
So are we to label you a hypocrite 6thGen? If not, then you will have to agree that the Abu Grahb images should be published and that our society should be judged by them. Oh yes, and lets also let them judge the pitiful manner in which a few underlings took the scapegoating for that whole affair.
Just read this. We think quite alike. See my post.
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Here you go, guys. I'll put my picture up so you will believe I'm a local. I've infiltrated this board because I believe that sowal.com sets the nation's agenda. And I'm tired of democrats dominating politics in the Florida Panhandle.


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I'm not smart enough about the Iraq thing? Wow! It's called a war of preemptive regime change and occupation against the will of the majority of the population. We've broken that country into pieces that will never go back together the way we want. We're screwed, because of a kneejerk revenge move that was poorly thought out. In one motion, we have destabilized a huge area of the Middle East and have strengthened Iran and Al Qaeda to the point that they no longer fear our projection of power. Meanwhile, someone tell me why Bin Laden is still drawing breath? None of our leaders are proposing any solution to clean up the worst mistake any President, in my lifetime, has ever made. History will tell?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=3236&R=1137D283E4
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OMG! Well maybe we should give 6thGen the benefit of the doubt and give him the chance to answer a question only someone actually in Sowal would know.
6thGen- Describe what the owner of Red Bar looks like.
I do hope he proves himself to be a home grown misguided neo-con nut job instead of an imported one, as I do enjoy kicking him around.........
Kick away at all the nutz you want my friend, you're damned good at it! :wave: 😀
You and Mango have now entered into paranoid schizophrenia. Not that I'm surprised. I'll get to your questions when I have a minute. I would like to see where you think you've kicked me around, though. If you can point some of that out I'd appreciate it.
Still haven't answered the question 6th Troll?
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Kick away my friend, you're too good at it! :wave: 😀
Still haven't answered the question 6th Troll?
OK, how?s this for a jab in the shin???.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching
Lynch Law?a form of mob violence and putative justice, usually involving (but by no means restricted to) the illegal hanging of suspected criminals?cast its pall over the Southern United States from the mid-19th to the mid-20th centuries.
After the 1915 release of the movie The Birth of a Nation, which glorified the Reconstruction-era Klan, the Klan re-formed and re-adopted lynching as a means to socially, economically, and politically terrorize and paralyze black populations, in support of a white supremacist status quo. Victims were usually black men, often accused of assaulting or raping whites. Jews were the next most common target, most famously, Leo Frank.
The murders of 4,743 people who were lynched in the United States between 1882 and 1968 were not often publicized. It is likely that many more unrecorded lynchings occurred in this period. Lynching statistics were kept only for the 86 years between 1882 and 1968, and were based primarily on newspaper accounts
Members of mobs that participated in these public murders often took photographs of what they had done, and those photographs, distributed on postcards, were collected by James Allen who has now published them online [3], and written words to accompany the shocking images.
6thGen, I believe you have said that your family has lived in the south for many generations, most likely in the years 1882 to 1968. So, by your logic, they were animals. Please explain to grandma that you believe she is a savage.
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I do hope he proves himself to be a home grown misguided neo-con nut job ..
Can you define what your version of a "neo-con" is? I'll give you a hint - it would be like me calling you Sean Connery because both of you feel comfortable in a skirt.
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Can you define what your version of a "neo-con" is? I'll give you a hint - it would be like me calling you Sean Connery because both of you feel comfortable in a skirt.
Weak.
Answer the question about the Red Bar owner.
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Weak.
Answer the question about the Red Bar owner.
What does that have to do with anything? What do you think a neo-con is? I'm dead serious.
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Tick, tock, tick, tock
I get the distinct feeling that someone at the Republican National Headquarters is desperately typing in "Red Bar Owner Description" on the google search bar.....................
I get the distinct feeling that someone at the Republican National Headquarters is desperately typing in "Red Bar Owner Description" on the google search bar.....................
SoWal Insider
You and Mango have now entered into paranoid schizophrenia. Not that I'm surprised.
Yes, it's very scary to think someone actually might be paying you to be an a$$hole.
Here you go, guys. I'll put my picture up so you will believe I'm a local. I've infiltrated this board because I believe that sowal.com sets the nation's agenda. And I'm tired of democrats dominating politics in the Florida Panhandle.and I'd bet money you post on any blog or message board that is near a miliatry base or that you deem left.
. So, by your logic, they were animals. Please explain to grandma that you believe she is a savage.:clap: :floor:
Can you define what your version of a "neo-con" is? I'll give you a hint - it would be like me calling you Sean Connery because both of you feel comfortable in a skirt.
Sean Connery always wins. 😀
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Tick, tock, tick, tock
I get the distinct feeling that someone at the Republican National Headquarters is desperately typing in "Red Bar Owner Description" on the google search bar.....................
Tell you what. I'll tell you what he looks like, if you'll tell me what you think a neo-con is. You first. Edit - no googling.
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