2nd presidential debate
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According to Brooks Jackson of FactCheck.org on NPR this morning Senator McCain misstated the info on his health plan; it is, as Cheering says, $5,000 for families and $2,500 per individual, not the $5000 tax credit for every American as McCain said last night.
This is a real big issue IMO, especially for self employed people; my insurance plan costs more than $2500...and, presently I am able to write off the cost completely. That write-off will disappear under McCain's plan; and there is certainly no way I can purchase insurance for $2500 per year!
One thing that I found interesting was Obama's placing healthcare second to other concerns like energy. I think he's finally starting to figure out he isn't going to have the funds he wants to pay for his programs until after the economy recovers.
My personal feeling is that right about when we get into a recovery, the bush tax cuts will expire, Obama won't get all his tax cuts down below 250K a year, and this will hit the economy hard. I'm expecting a prolonged recovery that'll probably last the full term of the next president.
Which brings up an interesting question - where does everyone see the country after four years? Will we have a balanced budget, government subsidized healthcare, energy independence, all troops out of Iraq, a booming economy? My guess is no, no, no, no, and no.
My personal feeling is that right about when we get into a recovery, the bush tax cuts will expire, Obama won't get all his tax cuts down below 250K a year, and this will hit the economy hard. I'm expecting a prolonged recovery that'll probably last the full term of the next president.
Which brings up an interesting question - where does everyone see the country after four years? Will we have a balanced budget, government subsidized healthcare, energy independence, all troops out of Iraq, a booming economy? My guess is no, no, no, no, and no.
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I am hoping for a period of rebirth and reform brought on by an "economic 9-11" and disgust at how our tax dollars are being wasted.
I think we will be out of Iraq (and hopefully not involved somewhere else), have a balanced budget, and be making strides in energy independence - probably brought on more by demand and entrepeneurs than the government.
Don't think our economy will be booming, but think we will be starting to recover and learning some hard financial lessons.
I think we will be out of Iraq (and hopefully not involved somewhere else), have a balanced budget, and be making strides in energy independence - probably brought on more by demand and entrepeneurs than the government.
Don't think our economy will be booming, but think we will be starting to recover and learning some hard financial lessons.
My guess is
Yes, no, no, no, no...
But I believe this would be true for Obama or McCain as POTUS in 4 years...
While I believe Obama will do a better job, I do not expect miracles from him.
My guess is
Yes, no, no, no, no...
But I believe this would be true for Obama or McCain as POTUS in 4 years...
While I believe Obama will do a better job, I do not expect miracles from him.
Man I hope you guys are right about a balanced budget, but you can chalk me up as a pessimist on it actually happening. I am now pretty sure Obama is going to win this one - which means we'll have a very democratic congress, and a very democratic president. Balanced budgets are not their forte, especially when you have a president whose convinced he can balance things without cutting spending and without raising taxes on families that make under 250K a year. In addition, we'll have this bailout to pay for, and the additional spending in energy research, military costs and Afghanistan, healthcare... it does not look good at all.
I remember back in '93 a one gigabyte hard drive was a luxury that might cost about $1000.00. Now you can get 500 times that amount of storage for about $120.00. That means hard drive storage is 4000 times less expensive today than in '93. I'm sure this has changed our world in ways I can't even imagine.
Short Takes on the Debate
http://www.alternet.org/election08/...ho_won_short_takes_on_the_debate/?page=entire ---
Different points of view on who won and who lost and why...
http://www.alternet.org/election08/...ho_won_short_takes_on_the_debate/?page=entire ---
Different points of view on who won and who lost and why...
If solar is an economically viable alternative, you won't need government investment, there will be billions of private investment. It's not like solar technology appeared on the scene yesterday - it's been around as an alternative for years. Solar didn't provide a cheaper alternative when oil was $140.00 a barrel. What gives you reason to believe it will be more competitive when oil hits $60.00 a barrel in a couple of months absent government subsidies like the one in the bailout bill?
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/10/07/ap5520520.html