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seacliffes

Beach Lover
Oct 23, 2006
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Tangomar
Some more insight.....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZSqXUSwHRI&mode=related&search="]YouTube - Al Gore's Penguin Army[/ame]
 
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Revelnit

Beach Comber
Jan 20, 2007
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Since we have moved to youtube I figured I would throw one in the mix as well. It is a little long, but worth watching regardless of what camp you are from. Doesn't sound to me like Mr. Gore is too concerned about Democrat, Republican, or running for president anymore. I could be wrong though. [nomedia]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNUbyzzDAiQ&NR[/nomedia]
 
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Miss Kitty

Meow
Jun 10, 2005
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"You say 'Treehugger'
like its a bad thing",


-God.



I'm waiting to see this pop up on one of those infamous all black billboards around here...

dka:drink:

Those billboards were funn.
 

TripleB

Beach Fanatic
Jul 15, 2006
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"You say 'Treehugger'
like its a bad thing",


-God.



I'm waiting to see this pop up on one of those infamous all black billboards around here...

dka:drink:
Don't blame me! Blame the Chinese dude. I think his name was Kri Ying Wuf
 

John R

needs to get out more
Dec 31, 2005
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from cnn.com

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Democratic chairman of a House panel examining the government's response to climate change said Tuesday there is evidence that senior Bush administration officials sought repeatedly "to mislead the public by injecting doubt into the science of global warming."

Rep. Henry Waxman, D-California, said he and the top Republican on his oversight committee, Rep. Tom Davis of Virginia, have sought documents from the administration on climate policy, but repeatedly been rebuffed.

"The committee isn't trying to obtain state secrets or documents that could affect our immediate national security," said Waxman, opening the hearing. "We are simply seeking answers to whether the White House's political staff is inappropriately censoring impartial government scientists."

"We know that the White House possesses documents that contain evidence of an attempt by senior administration officials to mislead the public by injecting doubt into the science of global warming and minimize the potential danger," Waxman said.

Administration officials were not scheduled to testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. In the past the White House has said it has only sought to inject balance into reports on climate change. Present Bush has acknowledged concerns about global warming, but strongly opposes mandatory caps of greenhouse gas emissions, arguing that approach would be too costly.

Waxman said his committee had not received documents it requested from the White House and other agencies, and that a handful of papers received on the eve of the hearing "add nothing to our inquiry."

Two private advocacy groups, meanwhile, presented to the panel a survey of government climate scientists showing that many of them say they have been subjected to political pressure aimed at downplaying the threat of global warming.


The groups presented a survey that shows two in five of the 279 climate scientists who responded to a questionnaire complained that some of their scientific papers had been edited in a way that changed their meaning. Nearly half of the 279 said in response to another question that at some point they had been told to delete reference to "global warming" or "climate change" from a report.

The questionnaire was sent by the Union of Concerned Scientists, a private advocacy group. The report also was based on "firsthand experiences" described in interviews with the Government Accountability Project, which helps government whistleblowers, lawmakers were told.

At the same time, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-California, sought to gauge her colleague's sentiment on climate change. She opened a meeting where senators were to express their views on global warming in advance of a broader set of hearings on the issue.

Among those scheduled to make comments were two presidential hopefuls -- Sens. John McCain, R-Arizona, and Barack Obama, D-Illinois. Both lawmakers favor mandatory reductions in greenhouse gas emissions, something opposed by President Bush, who argues such requirements would threaten economic growth.

U.N. climate change report expected soon

The intense interest about climate change comes as some 500 climate scientists gather in Paris this week to put the final touches on a United Nations report on how warming, as a result of a growing concentration of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, is likely to affect sea levels.

They agree sea levels will rise, but not on how much. Whatever the report says when it comes out at week's end, it is likely to influence the climate debate in Congress.

At the Waxman hearing, the two advocacy groups said their research -- based on the questionnaires, interviews and documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act -- revealed "evidence of widespread interference in climate science in federal agencies."

The groups report described largely anonymous claims by scientists that their findings at times at been misrepresented, that they had been pressured to change findings and had been restricted on what they were allowed to say publicly.

The survey involved scientists across the government from NASA and the Environmental Protection Agency to the department's of Agriculture, Energy, Commerce, Defense and Interior. In all the government employees more than 2,000 scientists who spend at least some of their time on climate issues, the report said.
 

Bob

SoWal Insider
Nov 16, 2004
10,366
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I see the arrogance is not limited to man-made global warming. I am not a scientist. I am not saying you should believe or disbelieve the artical I referenced. It is just 1 of many that seem to poke holes into some of the theories presented by the alarmist. I do think global warming MAY be taking place. We are talking about a celestial body that is over 3.5 billion years old!!! You are using data collected over 15-20 years or so (data that whether you like it or not is debatable) to come to a conclusion that human consumerism (a phrase I borrow from another poster) is the catalyst for the global warming. Is it 10 years, 15 years or maybe 30 years we are using for analysis? We are comparing this to what? The last 50 years? 100 years? 100 years is a long time to us humans but it is a blink of the eye to a planet that has been around over 3.5 billion years.

I'm sorry I have disappointed you in that my research isn't up to the high standards you have obviously set for yourself and others. I am not out to "disprove" anything. The onus is on the "man-made global warming " crowd to come up with the proof. Proof that has yet to be conclusive and inclusive as to the data that seems to be conveniently over looked or omitted.

My research methods may be lacking mainly because: 1. I'm not an alarmist,
2. Common sense tells me 10-20 years of data out of sample size of about 75-125 years from a variable that has over 3,500,000,000 years is about as worthless as a George Bush fundraiser at Barbara Streisands house and 3. I have a life. Why do I have this strange feeling that if there is a Democrat in the White House the global warming debate will gradually fade away (remember the homeless during the Reagan & Bush I years).
There's whiskey out there older than the only 150 years we've been pumping oil out of the ground to burn in the atmosphere. This has all happened in the last few generations. War for oil does it for me. There's got to be a better way. Trying to micro-manage the Middle East is not our government's highest calling, is it?
 

Searcher

Beach Comber
Mar 30, 2006
30
3
Al Gore has been nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.

lead-in from the story:

eb. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore and Canadian activist Sheila Watt-Cloutier were nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize in recognition of their efforts to raise awareness about the threat of climate change.

``They are both key figures who put climate change on the agenda in global politics,'' said Heidi Soerensen, a Norwegian member of parliament, who made the nominations with fellow MP Boerge Brende. ``The threat to the climate is so important that if it isn't solved, it could lead to huge conflicts as people fight over access to water and land.''

Link:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aitdeJI9Ezk0
 

TripleB

Beach Fanatic
Jul 15, 2006
572
3
65
Huntsville, AL
Al Gore has been nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.

lead-in from the story:

eb. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore and Canadian activist Sheila Watt-Cloutier were nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize in recognition of their efforts to raise awareness about the threat of climate change.

``They are both key figures who put climate change on the agenda in global politics,'' said Heidi Soerensen, a Norwegian member of parliament, who made the nominations with fellow MP Boerge Brende. ``The threat to the climate is so important that if it isn't solved, it could lead to huge conflicts as people fight over access to water and land.''

Link:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aitdeJI9Ezk0
Who could ever argue with Heidi Soerensen and Boerge Brende? Not me!
 
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