Beach Property Rights - public/private

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  1. Smiling JOe

    Smiling JOe SoWal Expert

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    Just so that people don't misunderstand the height ordinance for SoWal, it is not permanent, even though it doesn't have a time limit like the ordinance for the remainder of the County. It can be changed overnight, if the BCC votes to remove the ordinance. Don't sit so contently.
     
  2. Smiling JOe

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    Not much difference there, but that is not the reason for the height ordinance. The difference in your question is addressed in other County Codes regarding width of buildings as percentage of width of property. ;-)
     
  3. wrobert

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    Seems like they have a code for everything. Those buildings on Scenic Gulf Drive at Frangista Beach must of been grandfathered in. Like driving in a canyon.
     
  4. Smiling JOe

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    Canyons are much more beautiful than that crap. However, some of our country's most beautiful canyons are dammed, filled them with water so that people can have power in the desserts and playgrounds for big boy water toys.
     
  5. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    Regarding height limitations...perhaps I'm missing something. Cindy Meadows represents "our" neck of the woods. Why would she be supportive of increased building heights anywhere and the others against it?

    If some of you think that it won't ever change south of 30A, well I believe SJ is correct when he said, "....It can be changed overnight, if the BCC votes to remove the ordinance. Don't sit so contently."
     
  6. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    Andy A, we've acknowledged each other's position in the past. I have no problem with your opinion regarding public vs. private beach. I just simply don't agree.

    Again, the location of your property gives you the luxury of wanting to convert all private beach to public. The public would have to walk over 1000 feet to access your part of the beach. Pretty damn good deterrent for overcrowding. Just a hop, skip and a jump, and they are on our property.
     
  7. scooterbug44

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    Yes, but IMO an all county ordinance, even a temporary one, is a step in the right direction. All laws/regulations can be repealed/changed, but it's easier to change a south of the bay ordinance than a south of the bay ordinance recently extended to cover an entire county.

    Quote: "I have suggested to one of the commissioners that they have the GIS department that we fund, create a map of what beach accesses and lands near the gulf are currently public for use and such. So far, not a whole lot of luck, I guess some people really do not want to know."

    The county commissioners know the EXACT location, legal description, and even have pics of EVERY public access in the county. It fills 2 binders that are 3" or so thick!
     
  8. JustaLocal

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  9. John R

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    I'm confused here also, though I do see the sprawl potential also. I think the 50' ordinance is a good one, and one that should stay. With our white sand, and other marketable attributes, 50' feet keeps us pretty unique. I would hate to see our beachfront(or off beachfront) look like our neighbors to the east and west. Besides the extreme eyesore, I can't image where the cars would go, or the people. And it's not just immediately east or west, it's pretty much the entire coastline of FLA. Perdido key is the most striking offender(to me)
     
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    4 story buildings (general 50' size) are not "sprawl," they are a livable and sustainable density. Sprawl is giant 1 story box stores w/ 15 acre parking lots.

    IMO, there is NO good reason to oppose a countywide 50' height ordinance. :angry:
     
  12. John R

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    What about in DeFuniak Springs or anywhere north of Hwy. 20? Would a 60' tall building in the middle of Wind Swept be an eyesore?

    I'm just not sure we need a county-wide restriction. It seems like density limits are already in place in the zoning.
     
  14. Andy A

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    I'm just not sure we need a county-wide restriction. It seems like density limits are already in place in the zoning.[/quote]
    There are no zoning codes and the land use codes are a friggin' mess. Many times, they seem to be totally ignored.
     
  15. JustaLocal

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    There are no zoning codes and the land use codes are a friggin' mess. Many times, they seem to be totally ignored.[/quote]

    Okay, Walton County Land Development Code. Either way, density limits are in them. If you see them ignored, call or stop by code enforcement.
     
  16. John R

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  17. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    "The appellate court's unanimous ruling says in strong terms that Florida governments must respect the rights of beachfront property owners," said Steven G. Gieseler, an attorney with Pacific Legal Foundation's Atlantic Center, who represents the landowners. "The court was right to dismiss the idea that property rights end where the sand begins."

    see http://www.freedom.org/news/200709/20/plf.phtml
     
  18. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    You're kidding....right?
    :confused:
     
  19. John R

    John R needs to get out more

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    well now, you're pretty well protected when people want to start driving on the sand in front of your complex.
     
  20. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    Are you just denying a general trend here via "John R humor"?
     

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