Here is a friendly hanging curveball for all you lefties:
What is Bush's handicap?
..I think I'm reading a 71 in Poli Sci,; 71,76 in History; 71 in Economics .......
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Bush, Golf, and my hero Keith Olberman
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..I think I'm reading a 71 in Poli Sci,; 71,76 in History; 71 in Economics .......
I understood. I just don't believe you can balance Keith Olbermann with the sources you listed.
And no, I can't relate to that feeling.
I thought you all would enjoy that.
Olberman is lame, by the way.
Olberman is lame, by the way.
I thought you all would enjoy that.
Olberman is lame, by the way.
So are you. :roll:
Guess who else I love? Joe Biden! Comments regarding the President equating Barack Obama and Democrats with Nazis...
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0508/Biden_Bushs_comments_were_bull****.html
I don't know much about K.O., but I do know that I voted for Bush twice. I know now that my choice was WRONG. I, like Maeby Funke, would personally apologize to Al Gore if I met him.
I'm not sure what's worse:
-Bush thinking that giving up golfing is a sacrifice even remotely on par with that of our armed forces
OR
-Bush not meaning what he said but not being smart enough to know it's better just to keep your mouth shut sometimes.
I'm not saying that I'm smart enough to be president by any stretch, but I know and admit that freely!
I'm not sure what's worse:
-Bush thinking that giving up golfing is a sacrifice even remotely on par with that of our armed forces
OR
-Bush not meaning what he said but not being smart enough to know it's better just to keep your mouth shut sometimes.
I'm not saying that I'm smart enough to be president by any stretch, but I know and admit that freely!
I am in the middle of packing and just heard this song. It made me think of this thread.....
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IBD - I doubt you (or this song) could convince me that 9/11 was the real reason we went to war.
I think that became a very convenient tragedy to use as a reason along with WMDs when imo Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and others who had not been able to get Bush senior to go into Iraq for "nation building".
These guys worked hard to get GW elected because they'd have a better chance of influencing him. And it worked! It was largely about oil - not 9/11. Iraq didn't have enough to do with the terrorist attacks that warranted us waging war.
Why is it Bush is saying now that we went to war? It continues to change.......
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This post made me vomit, literally. And then it made me cry.
The initial visceral reaction was to the implication that somehow, in someway, I was wrong to point out that giving up golf was in no way a fair trade for sending Americans off to war for fictitious reasons, for sending 4000+ men and women to their deaths, for a war that should never have been waged. It was the first war America started. The very idea of a pre-emptive war is anathema to every American ideal. This President and his administration told the American people and the world that they had proof af weapons of mass destruction. They told us that they had proof that Saddam Hussein's regime had tried to buy nuclear materials in Africa. The President implied Saddam Hussein would have a nuclear weapon to like a sword over our heads. None of this was true. None of it.
We did not invade Iraq for reasons that had anything to do with September 11, 2001. No one tried to link the two until it became clear that there were no weapons of mass destruction. Anyone who pays any attention to current events at all realizes this.
What a low blow, to imply that I don't remember what that morning felt like. I'd just started a new job the day before and was 300 miles from home for training. My brother was in New York on business. I was watching the Today show, an the phone with my mother trying to find out where my brother was staying when the second plane hit and I realized what was happening. I rememer criving to the office and trying to sit through a meeting in a conference room with windows overlooking Lake Pontchartrain. I remember watching the planes line up in a landing pattern to land, and every plane in New Orleans air space, and all those coming in from South and Central America looking like they were headed straight for our building. I remember the gasps from the break room next door when the towers fell, and the terror of not knowing why people were gasping. I remember the president of United Healthcare telling everyone to go be with their families, and I went and sat in a hotel room in a hotel filled with people stuck away from their families. We all congregated in the lobby and watched the news in silence. No one wanted to sit in their room alone. I remember that week passing in a fog. I remember Thursday night, the television station in New Orleans (I lived in Shreveport then) set up giving stations around the city, and I went to give money because I needed to do something. There was a little girl and her tired looking grandmother in front of me. THe girl had on a new school uniform and shoes so old and tight they had holes and looked ready to burst. I'd intended to give the $50 cash I had, but seeing this little girl give $10 made me so sad and so proud of her that instead I wrote a check for a good bit more. I remember leaving there and crying so hard, I drove out to the West End, and parked to look at the water and listened to NPR's stories of people talking about their missing husbands and sisters and fiances that they were trying to find.
And yes I was angry, and yes I was sad, and yes I felt patriotic and I wanted to do something for my country. And it makes me mad as hell that someone would recognize that feeling -- a feeling all of us shared -- and use it as a political tool.
I find this video dishonest. We went to war in Afghanistan -- a war completely support and hope the next President refocuses on -- because of 9/11. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Trying to correlate the two is a political tool used by people that assume the American people are too busy or too stupid to pay attention to what their government has done in their name. This kind of emotional manipulation and fearmongering is completely at odds with freedom, justice, truth, strength, and everything else for which this country stands.
I find this post disgusting, IBD.
Come on! Olbermann is to the left wing as Hannity and Rush are to the right wing. They are knee jerk supporters of one side or another (okay, if you are a left winger, you think Olbermann has passion and Rush and Hannity are knee-jerk, and vice versa if you're on the other side). All have the absolute right to do what they do. I watch and listen to all of them from time to time, not necessarily because I agree with them or are looking for affirmation of my own opinions, but because it expands my horizons. They all have their place in a free society, and thank God for that.
That said, I tend to agree with Olbermann a lot of the time, but not always, so I consider him to be somewhat of a guilty pleasure. He is very, very intelligent, very well read, and a lyrical, elegant writer. When he is on a roll it is a thing of beauty to watch. I have watched his career very closely and am happy that he he has found a role that suits him so well. (I don't think his producers are happy about the ratings tho.)
I do, in general, agree with his rants about Bush. They may be extreme and divisive, and very harsh, but they are based in truth. I happen to believe -- unless something changes drastically -- that history will judge this Bush as harshly as Olbermann is judging him now. We shall see.
thank you so much for knowing when to come into a thread and put things into proper perspective. you said it all so well...
Sometimes I wonder if you are "trolling."
manners please.