"A consent agenda is a board meeting practice that groups routine business and reports into one agenda item. The consent agenda can be approved in one action, rather than filing motions on each item separately."
The consent agenda is also a place where unscrupulous elected officials often get away with having an item(s) payed by the taxpayers that we don't owe.
On the Agenda dated Feb 14, 2017 Cecilia Jones had submitted for payment a bill for $300.00 in attorney fees for a deposition she got herself involved in with an ex-employee of the City of Defuniak Springs which had absolutely nothing what-so-ever to do with County business! Ms. Jones was asking to be reimbursed for money she alleges she paid out to said attorney even though she could NOT produce a receipt where she had paid for said services. Basically, the bill had NEVER been paid, was for services that allegedly occurred through Nov. 8, 2016 and submitted for payment in the hope that people would not notice. The deposition stems from the firing of a City employee in 2012.
The statement from the attorney to Cecilia Jones C/O Mark Davis, ***** v Walton County et al albeit, ***** never sued Walton County! According to the attorney the primary focus of the questions to Cecilia Jones were in regard to her actions as a County Commissioner and whether or not her conduct would have interfered or influenced any decision by the Defuniak Springs City Marshall. Why is what the City Marshall does of any consequence to the County? The City is Incorproated and the County has nothing to do with the daily running or operation of the City!
Why is it the taxpayers responsibility to bail Cecilia Jones out for her ridiculous behavior in City business that had nothing to do with County business? She acted alone and even the attorney acknowledged that he was acting on her behalf as a private attorney and not on the Counties behalf.
When Mark Davis was contacted about this he agreed to pull the item from the consent agenda only because it was pointed out to him this was a Sunshine law violation. Then Mark Davis said he would put it under the agenda on his time and was told again he would be in violation of Sunshine law so he agreed to pull the item from the agenda.
Under the Consent Agenda when they ask for public comment C. Jones also prevented Bob Hudson him from speaking by telling him he had to sit down and wait until the end of the meeting to speak under public comments.
Just before the close of the meeting, prior to Mac Carpenter speaking, Bob Hudson got up to go outside and C. Jones immediately seized the opportunity of Bob being outside Chambers to call for public comment and said "seeing none" they would break for 5 minutes. She effectively silenced Bob Hudson.
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I cannot imagine someone submitting to be deposed without a subpoena. The question would be if she was subpoenaed in her official capacity or as a private citizen. If she were in her official capacity then the county attorney or an attorney provided by the county's insurance carrier would represent the commissioner. If she were subpoenaed as a private citizen then she would be responsible for retaining counsel if she needed it. Unless something has recently changed, this is the policy.Agreed.
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I cannot imagine someone submitting to be deposed without a subpoena. The question would be if she was subpoenaed in her official capacity or as a private citizen. If she were in her official capacity then the county attorney or an attorney provided by the county's insurance carrier would represent the commissioner. If she were subpoenaed as a private citizen then she would be responsible for retaining counsel if she needed it. Unless something has recently changed, this is the policy.
If she had been subpoenaed in her official capacity as a BCC member your right Danny however, she was not!
Mark Davis (by his own admission) in the documents I uploaded didn't even contact the insurance carrier.
And here is a new twist, the deposition that Cecilia Jones said she needed to review hasn't even been transcribed yet BUT she billed the County having never read the crap she said. It is not available as a public records request at this time. If Cecilia Jones was deposed as a private citizen it won't be available to the public until the lawsuit is settled. If she was in fact deposed in her official capacity and she submits a bill for payment it IS a matter of public record.
Bottom line is, she stuck her nose and mouth somewhere it did not belong. Not her first merry-go-round doing that either. If I recall correctly when she illegally she took campaign signs from the DOT (taken from someones private property) and refused to give them back, when she knew a police report had been filed, she interfered in that as well, ran her mouth to Mark Weeks (literally called him while the police officer was taking the report) who then absolutely just flat out refused to do his job and the Sheriff was contacted. Those signs ended up being dropped off at the State Attorney's Office, picked up by the WCSO and returned to their rightful owner. Mark Weeks cleaned up her silly
in that fiasco and she contacted the State Attorney (not the complainant) trying to cover up the mess she made.I've said many times that if her lips are moving, she is lying. Watch her sometime in a County Commission meeting...her lips are always moving even when she isn't talking!
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Beach Lover
This is really cute , but that's no way to treat someone that just opposes your views/mentality. It's really sad you have to resort to being vulgar by posting idle threats... good luck with that
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@Seadune85 maybe this will help you in clarifying things for Ms. Morse. Although I'm sure it will not make a difference, as she will continue to believe Mrs. Jones is part of a conspiracy to scam the county. Let's see how long it takes for her to rebound on this with a rant or simply move on to the next fabricated witch hunt.
Beach Lover
@Mark Jacobs I suspect a rant is in the works as I type. Not much will deter this woman..she is apparently out for blood. Thanks for trying!!
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@Seadune85 maybe this will help you in clarifying things for Ms. Morse. Although I'm sure it will not make a difference, as she will continue to believe Mrs. Jones is part of a conspiracy to scam the county. Let's see how long it takes for her to rebound on this with a rant or simply move on to the next fabricated witch hunt.
I don't think it was a conspiracy. I know exactly what she did.
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@Seadune85 maybe this will help you in clarifying things for Ms. Morse. Although I'm sure it will not make a difference, as she will continue to believe Mrs. Jones is part of a conspiracy to scam the county. Let's see how long it takes for her to rebound on this with a rant or simply move on to the next fabricated witch hunt.
Joined today to upload a document that no one even questioned the existence of? We knew it was on the consent agenda. We know Mark Davis agreed with Jones, that the County should pay this bill. We know Mark Davis pulled it from the consent agenda after being told it was a violation of sunshine law. We also know that if Mark Davis felt so strongly about his position it would have been on the agenda under his time. We know it was not!
We know that the County is NOT involved in a lawsuit with DFS.
Ya'll wanna play these silly little games, that's fine. Pay the bill then sit back and wait for the lawsuit that will follow.
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Krika was fired in Sept. 2012 and subsequently filed a lawsuit against the City of DFS for Sunshine law violations because it was alleged at the time that Council members discussed the issue before the meeting and that there were witnesses who saw and heard the council members do this. It was also alleged at that time C. Jones contacted council members at Mark Weeks request (except one who she was not on good terms with) to vote to fire Krika. A comment was also made at the council meeting where they voted to fire Krika, that the decision had already been made. It was a 5 - 0 vote.
All of this stemmed from Clayton Adkinson's move to rehire old City Manager Mike Standley and a background check that was done on Standley that shed negative light on Standley since he left DFS and went to work for Regional Utilities. It was also alleged back then that Standley was actually dismissed from Regional Utilities for sexual harassment complaints and very derogatory comments he made to women also employed there. When that information became public Standley withdrew his application for re-employment with DFS. As I understand it the information turned over to the FBI by Krika also contained information on that background check and it also included the "politics" involved at that time.
In my opinion, NONE of this including the alleged actions of Cecilia Jones has/had anything to do with County business. In fact, I would hazard a guess that other elected BCC members at that time were also unaware of her actions or that they played any part in talking with City Council members about the day to day operations of the Police department. Its none of the Counties business just as it was none of Cecilia Jones business.
Would I expect that Cecilia Jones would tell the truth under oath? In my personal opinion NO, simply because I know what she has done in the past, threats that have been made against citizens and guns that have been pointed at citizens as well, all in an effort to silence citizen rights to question or speak out against elected officials. Been there, done that bought the T shirt!
All of this stemmed from Clayton Adkinson's move to rehire old City Manager Mike Standley and a background check that was done on Standley that shed negative light on Standley since he left DFS and went to work for Regional Utilities. It was also alleged back then that Standley was actually dismissed from Regional Utilities for sexual harassment complaints and very derogatory comments he made to women also employed there. When that information became public Standley withdrew his application for re-employment with DFS. As I understand it the information turned over to the FBI by Krika also contained information on that background check and it also included the "politics" involved at that time.
In my opinion, NONE of this including the alleged actions of Cecilia Jones has/had anything to do with County business. In fact, I would hazard a guess that other elected BCC members at that time were also unaware of her actions or that they played any part in talking with City Council members about the day to day operations of the Police department. Its none of the Counties business just as it was none of Cecilia Jones business.
Would I expect that Cecilia Jones would tell the truth under oath? In my personal opinion NO, simply because I know what she has done in the past, threats that have been made against citizens and guns that have been pointed at citizens as well, all in an effort to silence citizen rights to question or speak out against elected officials. Been there, done that bought the T shirt!
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@Seadune85 maybe this will help you in clarifying things for Ms. Morse. Although I'm sure it will not make a difference, as she will continue to believe Mrs. Jones is part of a conspiracy to scam the county. Let's see how long it takes for her to rebound on this with a rant or simply move on to the next fabricated witch hunt.
www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0100-0199/0111/0111.html
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@Mark Jacobs I suspect a rant is in the works as I type. Not much will deter this woman..she is apparently out for blood. Thanks for trying!!
@Mark Jacobs
I suspect the 2 of you collaborated last night to upload yet another document (which was almost immediately deleted) that had Ms. Morse's name as well as an attorney in Walton County who represented her in a fictitious charge that was later dismissed. Smart move on your part to delete said document!
I don't think the attorney would be very happy with either of you for dragging him into something he has absolutely no involvement in what-so-ever and if you have any question for Ms. Morse, might I suggest you call her with any questions you have about said document. I'm certain she has the actual facts and would be more than happy to share them with you. Might I also add Ms. Morse is a private citizen?
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Would now be a good time to point out that Cecilia Jones $300.00 bill IS NOT on the agenda for this Tuesday's BCC meeting??
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I got the most interesting phone call this afternoon from an attorney in Tallahassee who explained to me what the mysterious deposition was all about that hasn't even been transcribed yet. Suffice it to say it had nothing to do with County business and I know it.
More on this later...
More on this later...
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I got the most interesting phone call this afternoon from an attorney in Tallahassee who explained to me what the mysterious deposition was all about that hasn't even been transcribed yet. Suffice it to say it had nothing to do with County business and I know it.PUI
More on this later...
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PUI
Yes, Yes, Yes, OMG Yes! Those Sparkling Ice grapefruit drinks are some powerful stuff.
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A blast from the past...
Back on 5-12-2008 and 6-20-2008 Cecilia Jones submitted campaign contributions to her own account at the Clerk of Courts office in the amount of 5 thousand and 10 thousand dollars consecutively. (Where does a retired teacher with a BA get that kind cash of money?)
Rumor/allegations were, that these were illegal campaign contributions from Regional Utilities. Of course you can't prove rumor and allegations or where cash money really came from, you just have to hope that WANNABE County Commissioners are honest and tell the truth. Only problem is, that scenario has not played out so much in Walton County over the years and it certainly hasn't played out with Cecilia Jones, EVER.
1.) The Camacho Estate
2.) Medical bills paid by the County she was not owed.
3.) All the hankie pankie with developers, the LDC and comp plan
4.) Campaigning for her personal choice and 2nd voice/vote on the BCC
5.) Threats and intimidation of people who actually spoke out against her
Well the saga continues...the events surrounding the bill Cecilia Jones submitted to the county asking for payment of $300.00 OCCURRED PRIOR to her being elected. The deposition happened after the fact!
Back on 5-12-2008 and 6-20-2008 Cecilia Jones submitted campaign contributions to her own account at the Clerk of Courts office in the amount of 5 thousand and 10 thousand dollars consecutively. (Where does a retired teacher with a BA get that kind cash of money?)
Rumor/allegations were, that these were illegal campaign contributions from Regional Utilities. Of course you can't prove rumor and allegations or where cash money really came from, you just have to hope that WANNABE County Commissioners are honest and tell the truth. Only problem is, that scenario has not played out so much in Walton County over the years and it certainly hasn't played out with Cecilia Jones, EVER.
1.) The Camacho Estate
2.) Medical bills paid by the County she was not owed.
3.) All the hankie pankie with developers, the LDC and comp plan
4.) Campaigning for her personal choice and 2nd voice/vote on the BCC
5.) Threats and intimidation of people who actually spoke out against her
Well the saga continues...the events surrounding the bill Cecilia Jones submitted to the county asking for payment of $300.00 OCCURRED PRIOR to her being elected. The deposition happened after the fact!
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My opinion is she is only one of the mice following the Blue Pied Piper. I will still write my check to Shippy if Cecelia can not afford it and Gary needs the money that bad. Listen people we are talking about pennies what we need to know is what other things have been run through the consent agenda that we have no idea about. This was covered very well to Mark Davis during my Sunshine Law suit. To my memory the judge said any and all expenses must be done in the Sunshine even if the contract is for toilet paper. What part of this did Mark Davis not understand.
Questions to Mrs Jones as to where she got campaign contributions is not county expenses. She was not even elected at that time. Now if you can believe Scott Brannon when heI and Lloyd had their big falling out and Scott was giving me information. Scott told me the contributions came from Registered Utilities . May be I am stupid but isn't the county actually over RegionalUtilities even though they have their own board.
Questions to Mrs Jones as to where she got campaign contributions is not county expenses. She was not even elected at that time. Now if you can believe Scott Brannon when heI and Lloyd had their big falling out and Scott was giving me information. Scott told me the contributions came from Registered Utilities . May be I am stupid but isn't the county actually over RegionalUtilities even though they have their own board.
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Listen people we are talking about pennies what we need to know is what other things have been run through the consent agenda that we have no idea about. This was covered very well to Mark Davis during my Sunshine Law suit. To my memory the judge said any and all expenses must be done in the Sunshine even if the contract is for toilet paper. What part of this did Mark Davis not understand.
Exactly!
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The SWORN deposition of Cecilia Jones is now a matter of public record. I have a copy of that deposition!
Steven Webster (representing David Krika) specifically asked Cecilia Jones the following questions.
(Q.) You have an attorney here today?
(A) By Cecilia Jones - Gary Shipman
(Q) DOES HE REPRESENT YOU IN YOUR PERSONAL CAPACITY OR IS HE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY?
(A) By Cecilia Jones - He is not the county attorney. He is my personal capacity.
Mr. Shipman added: Nor have I ever represented the County.
(Q) By Steven Webster - So he is NOT being paid by the County for you to appear here today for a deposition?
(A) By Cecilia Jones - NO.
So Ms. Jones, at the deposition you knew Mr. Shipman was not being paid by the County to represent you but yet, it later appeared as an agenda item that you wanted the taxpayers to foot the bill for.
Really?
At last night's BCC meeting when I broached this subject to get it on public record, Mark Davis fell on the proverbial sword to cover your backside saying he submitted it as an agenda item but the TRUTH has come full circle today with the depositions.
Steven Webster (representing David Krika) specifically asked Cecilia Jones the following questions.
(Q.) You have an attorney here today?
(A) By Cecilia Jones - Gary Shipman
(Q) DOES HE REPRESENT YOU IN YOUR PERSONAL CAPACITY OR IS HE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY?
(A) By Cecilia Jones - He is not the county attorney. He is my personal capacity.
Mr. Shipman added: Nor have I ever represented the County.
(Q) By Steven Webster - So he is NOT being paid by the County for you to appear here today for a deposition?
(A) By Cecilia Jones - NO.
So Ms. Jones, at the deposition you knew Mr. Shipman was not being paid by the County to represent you but yet, it later appeared as an agenda item that you wanted the taxpayers to foot the bill for.
Really?
At last night's BCC meeting when I broached this subject to get it on public record, Mark Davis fell on the proverbial sword to cover your backside saying he submitted it as an agenda item but the TRUTH has come full circle today with the depositions.
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Oh that's not all it said. Everyone in this county should read it. It was all about campaign contributions in cash from as Scott told me was from Regional Utilities so I guess for once Scott was right. How funny.
Lots of other things very interesting. If you do not read this you have really missed something.
Lots of other things very interesting. If you do not read this you have really missed something.
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I was not going to put the deposition here until I had an opportunity to address the board. After learning that a vote by the Chair could prevent me from even being able to speak even after requesting to be on the agenda, I have changed direction.
Before reading this document (if you choose to do so) please understand that the County is only obligated to pay the $300.00 bill if the County was in any way involved in the questions and answers Cecilia provided to the attorney for David Krika. At no time during the course of this deposition or afterwards is anything Cecilia Jones said remotely related to County business or anything having to do with County business and the County is not involved with the lawsuit David Krika has against the City of DFS.
I'd also like to point out the County is liable for Comments made by Cecilia Jones acting in her capacity as the board Chair and she does admit in the deposition she is a BCC Commissioner.
That "crazy lady" is Lynda Morse (please get the spelling correct Ms. Jones) and I am not now nor have a ever been diagnosed with ANY mental illness or mental issues. I readily admit that I have a temper, I am very outspoken and real apt to tell someone (anyone) how I think the cow ate the cabbage. I will also say that Ms. Jones lied about most all the facts surrounding my campaign signs and there was never a criminal complaint filed against her with the City of DFS by me. There was a complaint asking that my personal property be returned to me which, Mark Weeks flat out told me (after having spoke to Ms. Jones) he would not help me to get my personal property returned.
The criminal complaint that I filed, was filed with the Sheriff's Department against the goon who showed up at my door unannounced threatening me who I later identified as Ms. Jones ex husband who was issued a no trespass order.
In the deposition Ms. Jones admits to taking my personal property to the Asst. State Attorney (Greg Anchors) trying to have the State file charges against me for illegal campaign signs. The sign was returned and there was nothing illegal about them. She claims she did not know she had the sign early on but the same DOT person who helped her load the signs in her truck was SHOWN the sign prior to it being put in the truck and Ms. Jones made the comment while holding the sign in front of the guy from the DOT and said..."Oh look here, how funny". So in effect, she took the sign knowing it didn't belong to Tony Anderson and was an ANTI Tony sign!
Imagine if you will, my initial shock (I was floored, literally) to realize that in an effort to turn the conversation away from illegal campaign contributions Ms. Jones allegedly took, I inadvertently became the focus of the deposition! Notice how many times her own attorney asked her to "focus". Also notice that she says "I'm so bad with numbers" but Chairs a county seat with a multi million dollar budget. Just wow.
Folks, keep voting her back in and nothing will change in this County.
Before reading this document (if you choose to do so) please understand that the County is only obligated to pay the $300.00 bill if the County was in any way involved in the questions and answers Cecilia provided to the attorney for David Krika. At no time during the course of this deposition or afterwards is anything Cecilia Jones said remotely related to County business or anything having to do with County business and the County is not involved with the lawsuit David Krika has against the City of DFS.
I'd also like to point out the County is liable for Comments made by Cecilia Jones acting in her capacity as the board Chair and she does admit in the deposition she is a BCC Commissioner.
That "crazy lady" is Lynda Morse (please get the spelling correct Ms. Jones) and I am not now nor have a ever been diagnosed with ANY mental illness or mental issues. I readily admit that I have a temper, I am very outspoken and real apt to tell someone (anyone) how I think the cow ate the cabbage. I will also say that Ms. Jones lied about most all the facts surrounding my campaign signs and there was never a criminal complaint filed against her with the City of DFS by me. There was a complaint asking that my personal property be returned to me which, Mark Weeks flat out told me (after having spoke to Ms. Jones) he would not help me to get my personal property returned.
The criminal complaint that I filed, was filed with the Sheriff's Department against the goon who showed up at my door unannounced threatening me who I later identified as Ms. Jones ex husband who was issued a no trespass order.
In the deposition Ms. Jones admits to taking my personal property to the Asst. State Attorney (Greg Anchors) trying to have the State file charges against me for illegal campaign signs. The sign was returned and there was nothing illegal about them. She claims she did not know she had the sign early on but the same DOT person who helped her load the signs in her truck was SHOWN the sign prior to it being put in the truck and Ms. Jones made the comment while holding the sign in front of the guy from the DOT and said..."Oh look here, how funny". So in effect, she took the sign knowing it didn't belong to Tony Anderson and was an ANTI Tony sign!
Imagine if you will, my initial shock (I was floored, literally) to realize that in an effort to turn the conversation away from illegal campaign contributions Ms. Jones allegedly took, I inadvertently became the focus of the deposition! Notice how many times her own attorney asked her to "focus". Also notice that she says "I'm so bad with numbers" but Chairs a county seat with a multi million dollar budget. Just wow.
Folks, keep voting her back in and nothing will change in this County.
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While I don't always like the shenanigans in Walco it is quite low class to air your dirty laundry in public and downright trashy to do it on this forum which we'd all like to reflect the better nature of our community. I believe this forum has a rule against axe grinding and you've already been banned once for it. How did you get back on?
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While I don't always like the shenanigans in Walco it is quite low class to air your dirty laundry in public and downright trashy to do it on this forum which we'd all like to reflect the better nature of our community. I believe this forum has a rule against axe grinding and you've already been banned once for it. How did you get back on?
This was not my dirty laundry. I have no dog in the fight with David Krika's lawsuit and quite frankly, I resent being drug into inadvertently. This has nothing to do with County business and the taxpayers don't owe the $300.00 Cecilia Jones attempted to bill the County for.
The "trash" in my humble opinion came from a woman desperate to deflect the issue away from herself and for reasons known only to her try to put them off on me.
While I too would like to see our Community become a better place for all of us to live, work and play when you have rogue Commissioner(s) hell bent to help to destroy it, they deserve to be outed!
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P.S. jensky, You went from this
To this...
Really?
@earl you are the ridiculous one. How do you equate a lynch mob with folks on a public forum making (mostly civil and not overly harsh and truthful) comments about elected officials and where do you see local businesses mentioned?
To this...
it is quite low class to air your dirty laundry in public and downright trashy to do it on this forum.
Really?
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P.S. jensky, You went from thisYou are one of the exceptions to the good folks here. Apparently only to unleash your stink. And quite the attention whore.
To this...
Really?
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