Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

Discussion in 'Local Government and Groups' started by Reggie Gaskins, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    My sincere apology. I guess Reggie removed it on his own during the “edit time window” after I saw it and made a comment about it.
     
  2. Jimmy T

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    Nah. Not interested in going to this "event." Just thought this thread could use a bit of humor.
     
  3. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    Yeah, I know - they all look alike.
    THAT's A JOKE!!! (just in case.)
    You really should if you support CU. He and Dave R are key spokesmen, supposedly.
    I wouldn't dare dream of insulting the general public. Too many lawyer jokes confirm that is a bad idea.
    FYI, "Nothing in life is free." BFOs prove that by buying the beach and then having to spend more money defending it. BTW, if the county loses, the public will be paying for that part as well. And what came out of his mouth was very hurtful, at least to me. Apparently all you CU people are A-OK with it.
    You're right about that. FBFA should try to vet their sources of such questionable information such as that dumb slide of Vizcaya's beach by the same so called "yahoo with a camera".
    That certainly will not happen until the FINAL verdict comes in. And the millions you refer to - I assume you mean millions of people and NOT millions of dollars that is being pissed away by the county with a questionable hope of success. Assuming millions of people, again, that is one of the beautiful things about the U.S. Constitution....

    Protection of minorities from things like David R's polls shared in this thread.
     
  4. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    Just a thought. Maybe I could be accused of aiding and comforting the enemy. But here goes.

    IMHO, FBFA should seriously reconsider there public relations tactics and this includes elected representatives. As it stands now based on events evidenced here on SoWal, I for one, have absolutely zero respect for the organization for multiple reasons. I sincerely understand the desires of so many who wish customary use to come true. Yes, the courts will decide. We all know that. And yes, FBFA's goal could be considered a noble cause by many. And a confession... I could even respect that (not that I agree, of course) if it weren't for some the tactics exhibited by past and present board members of FBFA.

    But FBFA should take serious notice of the very obvious.

    FBFA, do yourself a favor.....at least think about it.
     
  5. Kurt Lischka

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    Hello everyone. This topic is a hot one and is likely to get hotter. We do not tolerate personal attacks on SoWal.com, and name calling is unnecessary. Please keep on topic and be kind, or find another forum.

    :thanks:
     
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  6. Poppaj

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    There are repeated references to the constitution in this thread. The portion of the 5th amendment pertaining to property states,
    “nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”
    So it reads private property can be legally taken if the owner is compensated. In this case the owner will be justly compensated for a small section of unbuildable land.
     
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  7. BeachSandpiper

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    "That is at the core of this conflict. You folks believe that those are private beaches and you may exclude us from those beaches and we believe completely the opposite that since people began using the beaches they were shared. So I believe those images to be true and correct and that is a matter of opinion that most people agree with." I am so confused by Dave's comments. Is it really just a "matter of belief"? If I believe I don't have to pay taxes, or I can drive however I like, even on the "wrong" side of the road, or that the world is really flat, does that make me right? Is the opinion that beaches were really public prior to July 1,2018, but now magically are private the "majority" opinion? Facts do matter in our world, nation, community. It is not a matter of "belief" that people can own and control property. Is there proof that Dave and pro CU people are in the majority? Let's agree to stick to the facts- no matter how difficult they are to face.
     
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    Another funny thing about facts is there is usually some kind of record. I also found it interesting in Dave's account of the waltonwatchdog.com blog. I understood that waltonwatchdog quit his blog then brought it back after Dave opened up the "can of worms" on this thread with inaccurate statements surrounding the incident and slandered James Lince once again. I think it is important to know what really happened. So go read the facts. Our community is better than slandering and demeaning each other. We can agree to disagree and discuss reasonably.
     
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  9. Dreamer

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    How bout being kind in the SoWal Lounge? The Trump bashing is getting old!
     
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  11. Reggie Gaskins

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    To expand on that BSP; the very long length of this thread is evidence of a new public venue in which honest discussion has few other legitimate options. The many informed voices here are truly attempting to inform, rather than invoke emotional response. The fact that
    Walton Watchdog
    has been resurrected because of truth finding daylight here is a powerful byproduct of exposing mistruths. The many recent blogposts there have referenced this SoWal thread as an indicator of progress in our community being informed. Gonna be a great beach weekend folks, hope to see ya out there.
     
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  12. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    OMG!
    I guess I’ve been in the dark regarding all that. So sorry for what the Lince’s endured. Now I also understand why Dave R keeps trying to discredit our “anonymity” here on SoWal. My goodness, the picture just keeps getting clearer and clearer.

    So I guess my plea to FBFA is a bit naive, huh?
     
  13. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    “You’re getting warrrmmer.....”

    You know, I’ve always wondered how Dave R could be so successful in business and then write such bizarre posts. I just figured it out (thank you BTW).

    Instead of paying for it, first try to get it for free, as any good businessman should do. But lawyers aren’t cheap either.
     
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    The rules are different there Mr President, kind of like most of your press conferences.
     
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    What is the status of the litigation (case no. if anyone has it) ? I'd like to follow that and not check in on this thread. Thanks.
     
  16. Auburn Fan

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    The case number is 547.

    There are currently over 800 documents filed associated with this case.

    One of the documents filed just last week was over a hundred pages.
     
  17. Reggie Gaskins

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    So NOW do we understand how the deep diVISION AND IDEAS in really bad taste, like nude CU beach protest marches, are indeed ruining the legacy of 30A?

    Case closed. Stand down all of you attention getters and town criers. Step aside, you’ve done enough damage and created enough vile and disgusting followers. It’s time to let productive leaders in the community fix this in calm, intelligent fashion.

    We’ve suffered enough from this carnival of horrors. Go to the beach and behave y’all. Greet your neighbor, enjoy the day. Hopefully no one will try to use you to make a Facebook or Twitter post to distort the truth.
     
  18. Jenksy

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    Don't feed the trolls y'all. They are easy to spot. They joined recently, have a few dozen posts or so. And they don't post on any other threads than this one or other free beach threads.


    :banned:
     
  19. Auburn Fan

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    The truth is the truth. On what other threads would you care for members to post? No matter how many times a lie is repeated, it doesn't make it the truth. Let's deal with discussion of facts. What "facts" have been presented here that are not true? What questions remain unanswered?
     
  20. Lake View Too

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    I'm going to try to say this in a really respectful manner. If your intentions were to change hearts and minds about who is responsible for the situation we are in, you miscalculated badly by starting off with a distorted lie for the title this thread, and then repeated attempts to place blame on people that have known that customary use has been a doctrine on these beaches since before we all were born. We all know who instigated the disruption, and it wasn't the citizens that have used this beach for over 100 years. The blame is squarely on a handful of BFOs who have let their narcissism, anger management problems, and delusions of grandeur cloud their thinking. Are you one of them? You have voiced your opinion as if yours is the only valid way to see things. Well, I suspect, there are probably millions people who don't think you are correct. That is simply a guess, but when you add up all the people who have enjoyed these beaches for hundreds of years, and count their children, and their grandchildren, and their great grand children, and factor in a constant wave of tourists who have been coming here, year after year since the fifties, well I guess it adds up. Do you really think they are going to accept your point of view because it comes from you? My point is simple, you can yell and scream and order people to stand down, but it just makes you look like angry buffoon and no one is going to listen to you anyway.
     
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