Customary Use and Our 30A Legacy

Discussion in 'Local Government and Groups' started by Reggie Gaskins, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. kayti elliott

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    I can see it now. New signs on all roads into Walton County: "Welcome to Walton County. Home of the People's Beaches".
     
  2. EZ4144

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    Thanks for the grayt idea!
     
  3. L.C. Bane

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    "Welcome to Walton County. Home of Reggie Gaskins Beach." That should work pretty good.
     
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  4. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    Hey @FloridaBeachBum, the quote in your post .....
    Mark Twain said; 'Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.'
    is really starting to haunt me.
     
  5. mputnal

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    BMBV, I understand why The People scare you, haunt you and disagree with your posts. You post nothing but vitriol toward The People. You blame CU supporters for disrespect and yet almost every one of your posts is disrespectful to someone. It is starting to make sense why you are so threatened and hide your identity.

    For sure I will now support any group that exposes the disrespect, the hypocrisy and outright deception of beach exclusion-ist in this community who all hide behind a constant spewing of caustic propaganda with a fake name. Very revealing how your group is desperate to hide behind someone like Mark Twain. I think you must feel exposed.

    BMBV, Thank you for helping me with a renewed sense of purpose of protecting our beaches from disrespectful, angry and politicized imposter BPO's along with a very few local BPO's like yourself. A new slogan: Protect our Beaches from politics, wealth and greed!

    I have seen the Oregon Coastline and it is absolutely stunning. Welcome to Oregon Home of The Peoples Coast is a real slogan. In Walton County there are very few places where you can see the coastline. Anyone who has not yet figured out that this thread was all a big deception think about this for a moment. Where is our view of the coastline? Our coastline is hidden behind exclusive buildings! These exclusive buildings are on top of nature's protective barrier resulting in a damage beyond what is sustainable. The owners of these buildings are not yet satisfied until they "take" both the view and our beach resource. Anyone reading this thread should listen to their conscience to figure out who is taking what. Think about these owners who look out their exclusive buildings and see the beauty of our coastline any moment of any day. Then think about why these owners want you to feel ashamed of using the beach behind their exclusive buildings along with the fear of losing your property rights. Think about why they hide behind fake names. Don't let this deception distract you from the truth...
     
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  6. bob1

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    You’re both fools, Mark Twain never said this.
     
  8. FloridaBeachBum

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    Who did? Does it matter or change the meaning that Mark Twain did or did not say it? It does not.

    How about Proverbs 26:4 Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are.

    Poor Richard said; "Half wits talk much but say little [except baseless opinions]." Poor Richard was the pseudonym of Ben Franklin. True regardless of the name of the person who said it.

    No one on this thread compared themselves to Samuel Clemens or Ben Franklin other than they used pseudonyms and pseudonyms do not change the facts.

    Mark Putnal was correct about one thing, no BPO is like Samuel Clemens or Ben Franklin; Samuel Clemens and Ben Franklin did not own private fee-simple beachfront property to the MHWL.
     
  9. Poppaj

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    Damn, you sound triggered.
     
  10. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    Yes, understanding is a good thing.

    Thanks for noting my consistency.

    Yes, more consistency.

    Great observation.

    Very glad to help. We all need a sense of purpose.

    Couldn’t agree more.

    Thanks Mark Twain or whoever. I feel better.
     
  11. mputnal

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    FBB, even I am surprised at how low your recent posts can go! I hope you have a Sleep Number. Of course you do!

    BMBV, I respect you but you are pushing it. Good call on you fake name!
     
  12. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    Thank you.
     
  13. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    If you haven’t seen it already - hard to disagree with this observation, regardless of which side of the CU issue you’re on unless you’re one of the mentioned “a-holes”. From 30Ascene.com:

    Beach Access Issue: It’s Not Us, It’s Them…or Is It Us? Are We Even Sure Anymore?
    May 20, 2019

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    Editor’s note: Below, you’ll find an anonymous letter we received from a reader. While we also have an opinion on the beach access and customary use issue, we have purposely stayed away from any discussion on the matter because of how negative, mean spirited, and divisive the issue has become. That being said, we think this reader’s letter was worth publishing. And another thing…we aren’t entirely sure about the accuracy of his historical synapses on the matter…but we thought it entertaining….so, we’ll allow it.

    Letter to the Editor from Anonymous: Unless you’ve been hiding in a turtle’s nest for the last couple of years, you realize that there has been an escalating conflict brewing throughout South Walton County Florida. A conflict that has become downright nasty, ornery, and ugly to see.

    They say that good fences make great neighbors. Not really sure who the “they” are who actually coined this phrase…maybe it was Ben Franklin or Xin Dynasty from Ancient China….who knows… Either way, it seems that Walton County has most definitely been divided…not by fences mind you, but by ropes, property lines, trespassing signs, emotions, anger, and the like.

    While I do have an opinion on the matter, I’ll refrain from publishing it here. Why would I take the cowardly approach with my opinion? Because y’all have lost your damn minds…that’s why.

    Just look at we’ve become….look at how we’re treating one another. Civil discourse, logic, and friendliness have left the arena and have been replaced by virtual weapons. The same people who once shared drinks at the Red Bar and spoke cordially over dinner in other eateries have now turned on one another.

    It all started with the rudeness of a few instigators and has now caught fire like the measles in an anti-vaccer commune. I mean look at what’s going on around us… everybody is calling each other names, getting naked and photoshopping fake cop stings into social media posts, and much more.

    How did we get to this point?

    Best I can tell is that a few years back, one dude from one beachfront property began cussing people out for standing behind his house and other properties within his gated neighborhood. That’s right…one…single…neighborhood. A neighborhood that only encompasses about 300 to 400 yards of beach frontage.

    One day, this dude cussed at the wrong dude. This new dude then gathered a bunch of other dudes and dudettes to walk down the beach while holding hands, and then… all of the sudden…other beachfront owners starting worrying about who was going to be standing behind their houses. Someone petitioned government….government acted…the dudes and dudettes got even more pissed and subsequently petitioned the government as well…. AND THEN, the other folks petitioned more government. Smear campaigns began…not for profits began…movements to incorporate initiated…and now, lawsuits have begun.

    All of this because one guy was an a-hole to another guy who also happens to be an a-hole. Now, we have brothers and sisters hating one another…the original dude hiring guards to prevent folks from walking behind his house…and some new dudes running naked down the beach and making questionable claims about beach access.

    As my grandmother used to say…” it’s gotten quite ugly and” we “better break it up before someone loses an eye”.

    While we may disagree on the matter, why can’t we at least make an attempt at being civil to one another? You and I both know that nothing good is ever said in anger. Leave the name-calling to the politicians, and the bullying tactics to…well…those who cannot make a decent argument.

    Remember…we are a small community and after all of this is settled, ugly words and actions will continue to live on.




    IMHO, this is what Reggie Gaskins has been trying to tell ALL OF US.
     
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    BMBV, You have not been paying attention about Reggie's message. He represents disrespect, divisive propaganda, authoritarianism (bullying tactics), deception and elitism. Like the letter says this was a "smear" campaign. Reggie leads a mission. He has followers (including yourself). His purpose was two-fold: Blame and Shame. It was a classic BS pie regarding property rights. I don't know if you even read the letter that you posted. The person talks about "cowardly" behavior in having such a strong opinion without having the backbone to post his name! Apparently you are not reading this stuff.

    I do understand why you were upset in the beginning but there is a lot of water under the bridge now. You joined a group of people who do NOT represent you. This group despises The People. How many times do they have to call The People a bunch of fools? Maybe you despise The People also but there is hope because I sense a different tune. I could be wrong but I seriously doubt any of these characters own property in Walton County. If I am right then why do you think they are on this forum?
     
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    Marsh Harbor is probably not very concerned about beachfront property rights at this moment along with all of their neighbors and friends. They are experiencing an event that will change the landscape and life that they know and love. Keep this in mind when you want to claim ownership of a commodity that simply can’t be owned.
     
  16. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    Thanks for letting me know the true nature of Reggie. This is great info!
     
  17. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    Regarding the above editorial letter, I believe the beach wars, at least here on SoWal, actually started over 12 years ago and not at (alluded to) Vizcaya:
    Led away in Handcuffs

    Many of you probably remember this article:
    Led away in Handcuffs

    Then again after rereading the letter, maybe the author was indeed referring to the Retreat. Not sure now. Bet there was a lot of “cussing” going on in both situations.

    Regardless, the rest of the letter is pretty much to the point. And it’s concluding sentence:
    Remember…we are a small community and after all of this is settled, ugly words and actions will continue to live on.” And I am well aware that’s a 2-way road. But the approaching traffic is definitely heavier.

    Personally, I think the damage has been done. And the majority of BFOs are hunkering down (legally speaking) regardless of how their friends and neighbors feel about CU. That’s an indisputable fact.
     
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  18. mputnal

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    Your welcome!

    BTW you learned the art of snip and clip very well. It is a method that destroys context. But of course you know that :)
     
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  19. bob1

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    The letter is the pot calling the kettle black when it comes to divisive language and actions. Unfortunately in this day and age people act irrationally and are quick to judge, quick to offense, quick to respond and unable to listen and contemplate. Blame culture, phones, prescription drugs, overwork, loss of trust, and many other things we've seen come about in the past 50 years and it is all accelerating as we kill the planet and realize on a deep, deep level that we are doomed. Rats on a sinking ship start attacking each other to get ahead of the waterline. The biggest rats are in Washington DC, Hollywood and state capitals - and the millions of rats around you are mimicking their behavior.
     
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  20. BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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    You probably meant to say, ".... Mean High Water Line", right?
     

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