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SoWalProfire

Beach Lover
Jul 22, 2008
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www.local3516.com
We were just at Seacrest Beach August 2nd to 16th, when there were drownings, double red flags, etc.... One thing that would help would be a telephone number listed in the rentals to get up to date beach flag/beach conditions before you decide to go to the beach. Not sure if this info is even available but I would use it before I went to the beach with my family. The info could also stress the importance of NOT GOING IN THE WATER.


For current surf conditions in SoWal visit http://www.swfd.org. There is also important information on the "water safety" page (link on the left of the home page).

Be safe.
 

seagrovegirl

Beach Fanatic
Feb 9, 2008
3,885
454
Historic Old Point Washington
Really, Is how our narrow minded Fire Department thinks? Obviously you don't know the first thing about water safety and rescue. Throw em jail? I'll remember this when you people call me to rescue people out of the water. Why because your egos got in the way. Remember that most if any have zero water rescue training and you have been given those cool jet ski's with absolutely no training in big surf conditions. I have several years life guard experience and 6 years as a rough water coxswain and as a rescue swimmer in the Coast Guard and 35 years of surfing experience all over the world including Mavericks and wiamea Bay Hawaii. My point is this, if your gonna shoot your mouth of on this site ya damn well better know what the hell your talking about. Remember the life you save may be your own!

The whole point of throwing them in jail, or fining them is to keep them from drowning, or a rescuer drowning to save some idiot that didn't head warnings.

GRS...I would like to see you get involved with SWFD water rescue, it seems you have a lot to say and perhaps a lot to offer.:D
 

SoWalProfire

Beach Lover
Jul 22, 2008
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74
www.local3516.com
The whole point of throwing them in jail, or fining them is to keep them from drowning, or a rescuer drowning to save some idiot that didn't head warnings.

GRS...I would like to see you get involved with SWFD water rescue, it seems you have a lot to say and perhaps a lot to offer.:D


Thank you SeagroveGirl. I can always count on you to nudge me back to the path.:roll:

You are right. A person with this much experience and education would be a marvelous addition to our beach safety program.

GRS you should apply to the SWFD Beach Safety Division. If you visit the SWFD Central Station at (oddly enough) 911 N. Co. Hwy. 393 you can pick up an application.

Good luck! Hope to see you on the beach!:welcome:
 

John R

needs to get out more
Dec 31, 2005
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if someone does into the water on a double red flag day wouldn't that be viewed as 'assumption of the risk'?

And to Ms. Sweat who lost her BIL, it seems she knows exactly where to look to see the flags. if one is at the beach and must do a 360 degree turn to find out what's happening in one's surroundings, that doesn't seem to too much of an exercise.

ymmv
 

ASH

Beach Fanatic
Feb 4, 2008
2,156
443
Roosevelt, MN
Thank you SeagroveGirl. I can always count on you to nudge me back to the path.:roll:

You are right. A person with this much experience and education would be a marvelous addition to our beach safety program.

GRS you should apply to the SWFD Beach Safety Division. If you visit the SWFD Central Station at (oddly enough) 911 N. Co. Hwy. 393 you can pick up an application.

Did you folks ever fix that piece of metal trim on the roofline to the South? It always looks like rain must run right down the inside wall. Must have blown loose during a storm at one point.
 

DannyMarg

Beach Lover
May 21, 2008
113
10
Miramar Beach
Really, Is how our narrow minded Fire Department thinks? Obviously you don't know the first thing about water safety and rescue. Throw em jail? I'll remember this when you people call me to rescue people out of the water. Why because your egos got in the way. Remember that most if any have zero water rescue training and you have been given those cool jet ski's with absolutely no training in big surf conditions. I have several years life guard experience and 6 years as a rough water coxswain and as a rescue swimmer in the Coast Guard and 35 years of surfing experience all over the world including Mavericks and wiamea Bay Hawaii. My point is this, if your gonna shoot your mouth of on this site ya damn well better know what the hell your talking about. Remember the life you save may be your own!

GRS,
You should maybe stop shooting your mouth and thank those who are here for no other reason but to help others. If you are the self-proclaimed hero you say you are then takes some advise, be a little more humble and support those who have common goals. And by the way I work for SWFD and guarantee I have better water knowledge, better quality experience in the water and especially surf way better than you will ever dream up. And oh yeah, since you are disrespecting noble professions like EMS, Firefighters, Police and lifeguards what exactly are you doing to better this community, do you even work?
:yikes:
 

seagrovegirl

Beach Fanatic
Feb 9, 2008
3,885
454
Historic Old Point Washington
Thank you SeagroveGirl. I can always count on you to nudge me back to the path.:roll:

You are right. A person with this much experience and education would be a marvelous addition to our beach safety program.

GRS you should apply to the SWFD Beach Safety Division. If you visit the SWFD Central Station at (oddly enough) 911 N. Co. Hwy. 393 you can pick up an application.

Did you folks ever fix that piece of metal trim on the roofline to the South? It always looks like rain must run right down the inside wall. Must have blown loose during a storm at one point.

Which building are you referring to????
 

grumpyfish

Beach Comber
Aug 25, 2008
24
9
Wow! You seem a little tense. Try a little yoga. Some daily exercise. Maybe a significant other. Xanax. Something...

I am so relieved to hear that god asks you for advice about water rescue! Wish you could have been there helping us on June 8th 2003. I'm sure no one would have drowned. And at a time when we didn't have lifeguards, when firefighters with very little or no training in high surf rescue were left with the choice of letting people die or swim, I am sure that you, single handedly, would have prevented our firefighters from entering the water. Whatever...

I believe the grudge you bare is because you believe I am talking about surfers when I say law breakers. If you read the previously posted BCBCC enacted ordnance, you will see that it exempts surfers. As do I. I am Sorry I wasn't more clear.

As a northern Gulf coastal resident of Florida for over 40 years, I have been fortunate enough to enjoy all water sports; swimming, diving, skiing, skimming, snorkeling, canoing, fishing, kayaking and yes, even surfing. From the time I was 16 till I was about 24 or so, I lost more part and full time jobs than I care to admit because I checked the surf on the way to work. Surfers rarely drown and I don't think I have ever responded to a surfer in trouble during double red flag conditions.

As to why our folks got into trouble while risking their lives to rescue others:
As I stated above, we had little to no experience or education in high surf rescue but were still expected to enter the water and attempt a rescue. I assure you that our egos had nothing to do with the matter. And though I can only speak for me, I am reasonably sure that implication will piss off many of the guys who risked their lives to save others on that particular day and others.

You also imply that I spoke out of school. That I didn't know what I was talking about. Because I was there, I can assure that I DO know what I was talking about. But I am less sure of these two things. 1) That you know what I was talking about. and 2) That you know what you are talking about.

Oh yeah, and I won't be calling you to rescue anyone out of the water. I don't even know who you are.:dunno:

What are we talking about?:blink:

Lemme guess; You've got world records, mate. (infer an Australian accent)
I have one thing to say about all that...HERRRUMPH! Looks like ole greenroomsurfer should snack on his own words..."if your gonna shoot your mouth of on this site ya damn well better know what the hell your talking about." In the meantime, the adults are talking.
 
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