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Jdarg

SoWal Expert
Feb 15, 2005
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I am not a moderator, but please remember not to use personal attacking words. IMO, you lose your argument quickly when those are your first words.

Is FLgirl an elitist? :dunno: If your name starts with a j and ends with a g, don't anwer this question. ;-)

:rotfl:
 

Miss Kitty

Meow
Jun 10, 2005
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florida girl

Beach Fanatic
Feb 3, 2006
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Santa Rosa Beach
You are an idiot! have you ever tried to ride a road bike on the bike path? Judging by your misinformed post--definitely not. Have you ever read the state laws regarding bicycles--they have a definite right of way on the road? And, oh by the way, it's mostly locals riding their road bikes on the road--not tourists.

Actually, I've called Walton county natives "locals" for so long...
No, I don't ride a bike that doesn't have a motor. I used to, but physical limitations prohibit it. Walton county already spent money to put in a bike path, and since the dough isn't rolling in as it used to, I'm not sure more money could be used toward adding 3 or 4 inches to 30A, although that would alleviate the situation considerably. This issue seems to be a hot topic all over, here's an article: http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_9823020
It looks like the remedy will be more regulation!1

Emergency room doctor arrested for allegedly cutting in front of bike riders, causing crash
Associated Press
Article Launched: 07/08/2008 09:35:18 PM PDT


LOS ANGELES - An emergency room doctor was arrested after he allegedly swerved in front of two bicyclists during an argument over rights to the road and caused them to crash into his car, police said.
Christopher Thompson, 58, was arrested Friday for investigation of assault with a deadly weapon - the car - and booked into jail, Officer Ana Aguirre, a police spokeswoman, said Tuesday.

Thompson allegedly argued with the bikers who were crossing his path on a narrow road and pulled in front of them, slamming on the brakes, she said.

The bicyclists were taken to a hospital for treatment of moderate injuries.

Thompson posted $30,000 bail and is due in court Aug. 1, Aguirre said.

The district attorney's office is deciding whether to file charges.

Thompson, who is an emergency room doctor, could not be immediately reached for comment Tuesday. Telephone calls placed to numbers listed for a Christopher Thompson in the neighborhood were not answered or rang busy.

Ron Peterson, one of the bikers, told KFI-AM he and another man were riding their bicycles when the driver sped past them and yelled something.

"It had to be road rage," Peterson alleged. "He barely missed me."

Peter Swarth, who said he was Thompson's attorney, said his client did not mean to hurt anyone.

"We deny there was any road rage incident," Swarth said. "It was a very unfortunate accident."

Swarth could not provide further details about the circumstances


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kathydwells

Darlene is my middle name, not my nickname
Dec 20, 2004
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Lacey's Spring, Alabama
Actually, I've called Walton county natives "locals" for so long...
No, I don't ride a bike that doesn't have a motor. I used to, but physical limitations prohibit it. Walton county already spent money to put in a bike path, and since the dough isn't rolling in as it used to, I'm not sure more money could be used toward adding 3 or 4 inches to 30A, although that would alleviate the situation considerably. This issue seems to be a hot topic all over, here's an article: http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_9823020
It looks like the remedy will be more regulation!1

Emergency room doctor arrested for allegedly cutting in front of bike riders, causing crash
Associated Press
Article Launched: 07/08/2008 09:35:18 PM PDT


LOS ANGELES - An emergency room doctor was arrested after he allegedly swerved in front of two bicyclists during an argument over rights to the road and caused them to crash into his car, police said.
Christopher Thompson, 58, was arrested Friday for investigation of assault with a deadly weapon - the car - and booked into jail, Officer Ana Aguirre, a police spokeswoman, said Tuesday.

Thompson allegedly argued with the bikers who were crossing his path on a narrow road and pulled in front of them, slamming on the brakes, she said.

The bicyclists were taken to a hospital for treatment of moderate injuries.

Thompson posted $30,000 bail and is due in court Aug. 1, Aguirre said.

The district attorney's office is deciding whether to file charges.

Thompson, who is an emergency room doctor, could not be immediately reached for comment Tuesday. Telephone calls placed to numbers listed for a Christopher Thompson in the neighborhood were not answered or rang busy.

Ron Peterson, one of the bikers, told KFI-AM he and another man were riding their bicycles when the driver sped past them and yelled something.

"It had to be road rage," Peterson alleged. "He barely missed me."

Peter Swarth, who said he was Thompson's attorney, said his client did not mean to hurt anyone.

"We deny there was any road rage incident," Swarth said. "It was a very unfortunate accident."

Swarth could not provide further details about the circumstances


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Gee, I guess this doctor was having a BAD DAY. Freaking idiot!!!!!!
 

seagrovegirl

Beach Fanatic
Feb 9, 2008
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Historic Old Point Washington
Tell me you are not advocating the right to run into cyclists with a car. I've read your post several times and I am not sure what you are trying to get across, other than media reports of an ER doctor's road rage.:dunno:
 

pennstater

Beach Comber
Jul 10, 2005
43
10
NJ/Inlet Beach
I live in Northern New Jersey and commute to Brooklyn NY by bicycle whenever weather, work schedule and daylight permit. For those of you not familiar with Northeast geography, this means riding a bicycle on Manhattan's streets. I also own a place on 30A.

Said to say, but drivers on 30A are much less aware and all too frequently less tolerant of bicycles than drivers in New York City.

This applies whether I am on the bike path or on the road. Actually, failure of traffic to stop before crossing the path from driveways and intersections is in my opinion much more dangerous than riding on the roadway. This is particularly true in most of Seagrove and Santa Rosa Beach where line of sight is particularly limited.

By the way, I also find too many drivers to be inconsiderate of pedestrians.

Of course, I also operate a motor vehicle on 30A. I have never been delayed more than a few seconds by cyclists or pedestrians crossing the road laden with beach paraphernalia.

It seems, the presence of the bike path and the misconception that all bicycles belong on that path is what angers drivers. Driving angry is never a good thing.

Perhaps "SHARE THE ROADWAY" signs should be posted on 30A to inform drivers that riding a bicycle in the roadway is legal and is to be expected.

I ask all you motorists to imagine what you would feel like if you struck and injured or killed a cyclist how you would look their children, wives, husbands etc in the eye and say they should have been on the path.
 

florida girl

Beach Fanatic
Feb 3, 2006
1,453
67
Santa Rosa Beach
As oberger stated above, go to other countries and the bicycle, moped, small motorcycles are the mode of transportation for the majority of people in the world. The bicycle rider has priority in the road over the motor vehicle.

Part of leadership is having vision, and you might as well get used to the fact that this country is going to head into a more eco-friendly, oil and resource conservation society. You are doing a great injustice to the people you claim to represent by condoning bad behavior.

Further, you are wrong about tourism being the only industry. There are many open positions for engineers with major employers in the area. You should be encouraging people to further their educations. The alternative energies field is going to expand enormously, and there aren't enough educated scientists and engineers to support the growth as it is right now. These are well paying jobs. And don't tell me that poor people do not have access to money for education. It's available to those who seek it and work hard. Nothing worth having is ever easy to get.

I have no interest in living in another country, the US is still the best in the world! Second, I was speaking of Walton County, what open positions are you refering to? What is the high school drop out rate in Walton County? Why? Those that I speak to complain that the kids can make as much money without a high school diploma. How much education does it take to operate heavy machinery, work in a restaurant, hotel, landscaping, etc.?
 

florida girl

Beach Fanatic
Feb 3, 2006
1,453
67
Santa Rosa Beach
Tell me you are not advocating the right to run into cyclists with a car. I've read your post several times and I am not sure what you are trying to get across, other than media reports of an ER doctor's road rage.:dunno:

No, I don't advocate road rage, I do try to get to the root of a matter. Cyclist's tend to drive many up the wall. My concern is it seems incredibly dangerous to ride on the highway, seemingly unconcerned of other vehicular traffic. Cylcist's need to follow the rules of the road also. Many I've seen cannot keep up with the speed limit, weave on the road, ignore stop signs, generally create a nuisance.
 

TreeFrog

Beach Fanatic
Oct 11, 2005
1,793
214
Seagrove
Floridagirl would prefer that cyclists ride on the bike path and not on 30A.

FL law permits riding on public roads (such as 30A), and spells out the specifics for both cyclists and auto drivers.

I don't think we're going to change her mind, and I don't think she's going to change the FL law.

Let's move on...
 
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