Driver Pulls Gun on Cyclists This Morning

[Matt J]

I have no interest in living in another country, the US is still the best in the world! Second, I was speaking of Walton County, what open positions are you refering to? What is the high school drop out rate in Walton County? Why? Those that I speak to complain that the kids can make as much money without a high school diploma. How much education does it take to operate heavy machinery, work in a restaurant, hotel, landscaping, etc.?

Once again you just blindly insult hard working people. To answer your question all of those require education, training, and hard work. You clearly have had things handed to you on a silver platter and enjoy complaining that people have it rough, while never actually having had it rough yourself.

You definitely fit the definition of elitist as you supposedly champion the causes of the poor, downtrodden, and under-educated, all the while belittling them for their homes, occupations, and way of life. I'm off to vote for anyone but you for any kind of public office in this county.

 

[Matt J]

No, I don't advocate road rage, I do try to get to the root of a matter. Cyclist's tend to drive many up the wall. My concern is it seems incredibly dangerous to ride on the highway, seemingly unconcerned of other vehicular traffic. Cylcist's need to follow the rules of the road also. Many I've seen cannot keep up with the speed limit, weave on the road, ignore stop signs, generally create a nuisance.

It's a limit not a minimum.

 

[scooterbug44]

She was actually making a reasonable argument for once - since people can't follow the rules of the road and courteously share (in cars AND on bikes) and there are more and escalating conflicts we should find ways to solve the problem.

Constantly saying "bikes can ride on the road, it's the law" doesn't help. If everyone in those situations was following both the letter and spirit of the law, it would be a non-issue!

 

[Matt J]

She was actually making a reasonable argument for once - since people can't follow the rules of the road and courteously share (in cars AND on bikes) and there are more and escalating conflicts we should find ways to solve the problem.

Constantly saying "bikes can ride on the road, it's the law" doesn't help. If everyone in those situations was following both the letter and spirit of the law, it would be a non-issue!

I understand that, but she constantly throws out the solution to a problem and then leaves the getting there part out. I guess my frustration is that someone with that ongoing mentality is running for office. :shock:

 

[scooterbug44]

You preacher, me choir! :roll: Just trying to winnow out any good ideas and arguments.

That post was in response to Treefrog's comment - your 2 posts went in while I was typing.

 

[florida girl]

Once again you just blindly insult hard working people. To answer your question all of those require education, training, and hard work. You clearly have had things handed to you on a silver platter and enjoy complaining that people have it rough, while never actually having had it rough yourself.

You definitely fit the definition of elitist as you supposedly champion the causes of the poor, downtrodden, and under-educated, all the while belittling them for their homes, occupations, and way of life. I'm off to vote for anyone but you for any kind of public office in this county.

Just relaying the message many "native locals" want you to hear! I'm not talking about the world, I'm talking about Walton County! Some silver platter! You have no idea!

 

[Matt J]

Just relaying the message many "native locals" want you to hear! I'm not talking about the world, I'm talking about Walton County! Some silver platter! You have no idea!

I know plenty of "native locals" and most seem to have the opinion that you're a raving loon who they would be mortified to have representing them.

 

[florida girl]

Floridagirl would prefer that cyclists ride on the bike path and not on 30A.

FL law permits riding on public roads (such as 30A), and spells out the specifics for both cyclists and auto drivers.

I don't think we're going to change her mind, and I don't think she's going to change the FL law.

Let's move on...

You got it right mostly! Although, given the current state concerning cyclists and motor vehicles in the nation now, I would expect laws to follow.
I also wish for more compassion towards fellow humans who may be in a different culture, social status, etc. I do believe that no matter who you are, there is hope for a better tommorrow, people can change for the better. We are our brother's keeper.

 

[seagrovegirl]

No, I don't advocate road rage, I do try to get to the root of a matter. Cyclist's tend to drive many up the wall. My concern is it seems incredibly dangerous to ride on the highway, seemingly unconcerned of other vehicular traffic. Cylcist's need to follow the rules of the road also. Many I've seen cannot keep up with the speed limit, weave on the road, ignore stop signs, generally create a nuisance.

I agree completely with your quote.

 

[seagrovegirl]

Floridagirl would prefer that cyclists ride on the bike path and not on 30A.

FL law permits riding on public roads (such as 30A), and spells out the specifics for both cyclists and auto drivers.

I don't think we're going to change her mind, and I don't think she's going to change the FL law.

Let's move on...

I understood her quote responding to my quote; cyclist riding on 30A should obey road laws, as well as those on the bike path when crossing an intersection.

How many times have you stopped at the intersection of 395/30A, get ready to make your turn, and suddenly have to stop because a cyclist/bicyclist did not stop for traffic??? Just rode on through without any concern for their personal safety. This is my concern. I'm cool with the cyclist on 30A that obey the laws and I have no problem waiting to be able to pass them.

Oblivian is a problem, not only on 30A but on double red flag days as well.