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Bob Wells

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Jul 25, 2008
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I am certainly not promoting drinking alcohol, but isn't that going a little far? Not to mention practically unenforceable.

Yes, but it is the flavor of the month. I would support banning Alcoholic Beverages on the sandy beach all year that way we are not being selective in the enforcement. I wonder how many parking tickets are issued during the tourist season or if there has ever been a ticket for parking in the handicap parking or fire lanes?
 

Jimmy T

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Apr 6, 2015
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During tourist season in Grayton the Sheriff is too busy directing drunk drivers around The Red Bar to worry where they're parking.
 

John G

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Jul 16, 2014
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You are correct. Glad someone else noticed this.Friend helping friends. Its the Walton County Way.
 

Danny Glidewell

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Mar 26, 2008
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I have little patience for illegally parking in handicap or fire lane spaces. I also do not have much patience with people parking on private property on what is clearly someone's yard or driveway.
 

steel1man

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Jan 10, 2013
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Yes, but it is the flavor of the month. I would support banning Alcoholic Beverages on the sandy beach all year that way we are not being selective in the enforcement. I wonder how many parking tickets are issued during the tourist season or if there has ever been a ticket for parking in the handicap parking or fire lanes?
or for parking on the sidewalk
 

Danny Glidewell

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Mar 26, 2008
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Parking on the sidewalk or the bike path is unacceptable also. But it is our responsibility to fund better/more parking for our guests and citizens.
 

mputnal

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Nov 10, 2009
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These are the two direct incorporation questions.

These are the results within the 784 responses not broken down by Precinct or Age
I wonder who the "community leaders" are. Wealth and politics have a way to stir up the winds so to speak.
 

BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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Jun 20, 2005
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It is really too bad that those who have recently bought have no idea of what transpired before them regarding help for the beaches. They are so caught up with their wealth and property rights they have no conception of what can and might happen to their precious property if Mother Nature does not receive help. Just answer me one question. What "Private Property" owners can I sue the next time a Dennis comes along and destroys my property that could have been protected with beach renourishment? It is too bad we have so many stupid people suddenly moving into SoWal.

Andy A,

Your position on "Private Property" owners has been well documented with your many posts. And if your memory serves, you have constantly insisted that the beach should be public, even insisting that your gulf front association would agree with you.



Of course when I asked you to provide general access to the beach for the public via your private access (stairs and walkway), you never agreed with that idea.



I therefore believed and suggested that your posts were disingenuous when it really came to providing true public access to your isolated part of the beach. This is contrasted with those of us near public regional accesses and other high density accesses.


On one hand your position seems to be the beach should not be private - that the public should have full access.

On the other hand, it seems that your position regarding that the beach should be public, doesn't always suit you well as indicated from your post below from January, 2012:

Arkiehawg, my "chat" with FDEP was completely non productive. Their claim is that they only permitted construction, and have nothing to do with transportation of materials. The FDEP representative turned me back to the County. I called and talked to one Commissioner and informed one other. She said she would notify Code Enforcement and get back to me. That was only yesterday. I believe this is much worse, as far as our local situation is concerned, than the oil spill. Supposedly they received permission to transport the sand from someone in the County. It would seem that once again, money speaks the loudest.

In regard to the tents and blocking the path, <b>our beach is "private"</b> and I believe I can get our board of directors to go along with such a plan. Also, our beach is very narrow at this time. As I have stated previously, I do not understand how they at the Retreat feel they have the right to violate other's "private" beach in order to get to their posted "private" beach. They, as an association, should be ashamed!

So it is very apparent that you are a fair weather friend when it comes to the "beach being public for all to use", except where it includes necessary construction issues along the beach (Retreat geotubes).

I believe hypocritical would be an accurate description of your posts regarding this issue.

As I have mentioned in the past and now here, there is no convenient way for the public to access YOUR part of the beach. Your neighbors will not "pushed" out by the general public.

Perhaps your posts from 2012 reflect an emotionally distressed situation that we ALL endured at that time relative to the many trucks that traversed the beach. Did you forget how many trucks traversed other private beaches to build your seawall?

I suggest that you come clean and be consistent regarding this issue.
 

Bob Wells

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Jul 25, 2008
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I think the access is different than the beach. There are liability issues with maintenance of the access. As for as accessing the beach well he has been pretty clear that you can sit there.
 

BlueMtnBeachVagrant

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Jun 20, 2005
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Bob, yes he has been clear that you can sit on his beach. But what good is that invitation when one has to walk about 1000 feet to reach it? It's all disingenuous without access.

Since you brought up the subject of liability, private beach owners carry liability insurance for injury that could possibly take place on their private beach - no different than one's front yard, beach walkover, etc.

Theoretically, one could attempt to sue the private beach owner for negligence resulting in an injury.
 
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