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Do you support gay marriage?

  • Yes

    Votes: 45 67.2%
  • No, for political reasons.

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • No, for religious reasons.

    Votes: 14 20.9%
  • Don't care

    Votes: 7 10.4%

  • Total voters
    67

Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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joe who, I think there are legal differences between "union" and "marriage," so it may not just be a name.
 

LightWorker

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Jul 23, 2007
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I voted yes.....:love:

Two people in love, warms my heart! This is a good time to be alive!
 

Matt J

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May 9, 2007
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Equal but separate (see Brown vs Board).... Smooth...

I don't disagree with gay 'marriage' but I was trying to find a comprise for both sides... Instead i was enlightened along the way... Can't argue with that...

To answer your question it goes back to when the idea of civil unions was first brought about. Some communities even tried to offer domestic partner registration. In other words you weren't married, had no legal rights, but there was a list at city hall that said you loved each other. That's not equal since it doesn't come with the legally protected rights of marriage. Then to appease religious zealots someone suggested civil unions which would have the legal proctections, but be seperate from marriage. It's really semantics, but IMO it goes back to equal but seperate.
 

seagrovegirl

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Feb 9, 2008
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Recently being married I've kept my last name for professional/recognition reasons. We are in our 40's and it would just confuse things. However, if I did change my name...you wouldn't forget it!!! Being in Real Estate it would sound like a PR gimmick. Hubby's last name is Money......so it would go like this.......***** C. Money..........
 

rapunzel

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Nov 30, 2005
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I can't believe I missed all this while I was in Tampa...poor NoHall!

I think NoHall and I had a great conversation on this back in the spring. That conversation was based on the "threat to marriage' argument, and we agreed that of the many threats to marriage, gay marriage doesn't even rank. Things that do rank -- divorce; societal acceptance of things like starter marriages, trophy wives, mistresses, etc.

My point was that the government doesn't convey 'sanctity' on a marriage -- it is a contract between two people, and any sanctity is conveyed by the people involved and their personal beliefs. the government can't help nor harm the religious institution of marriage. Government does have a responsibility to give all an equal ability to enter into a beneficial social/family arrangement that fits their needs.

Single people do get a raw deal. It's cheaper and easier to live in pairs. Single people pay more for insurance, loans, and pay a higher tax rate. Their co-workers also expect them to work for less money and take the bulk of the overtime since they don't have sick kids or recitals to attend.

I worked for a company that as a rule didn't hire single people because they were 'too transient' and created to many office dramas -- this was explained to me by the married jerk boss who sent me suggestive emails and constantly wanted to tell me about his wife who didn't understand him and neglected him and put all her energy into the kids. He'd then suggest my best friend and I bring our bikinis over and try out his hot tub while uncaring wife was out of town. If you asked his thoughts on gay marriage, though -- that was a threat to the sanctity of his marriage and next we'd want to make bestiality legal and let people marry giraffes.

Civil unions, marriage -- I don't care what the government calls it as long as the same protections are extended to everyone. I also think that if I have a best friend and don't have the prospect of getting married because I'm too finicky or elect to grow my toenails into massive curling talons, I should be able to make that person my next of kin without having anything sexual involved...because my mother is a looney bird and I have no children, and sometimes friends become family after a time.
 

Smiling JOe

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Nov 18, 2004
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Why does a marriage license take about 5 minutes to complete the one page and cost less than $100, while divorce papers almost always require at least two attorneys, hundreds of pages of documents, months worth of negotiating, usually some yelling, and cost thousands of dollars. I say, if homosexuals want to get married, God bless them. A man recently told me the reason why the grass is always greener on the other side -- That is where the septic tank is located.
 

Matt J

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May 9, 2007
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Why does a marriage license take about 5 minutes to complete the one page and cost less than $100, while divorce papers almost always require at least two attorneys, hundreds of pages of documents, months worth of negotiating, usually some yelling, and cost thousands of dollars. I say, if homosexuals want to get married, God bless them. A man recently told me the reason why the grass is always greener on the other side -- That is where the septic tank is located.

That was also addressed earlier as to the fact that a male/female couple can get a marriage liscense get married and without spending over $100.00. However to get the same legal protections gays and lesbians have to gather many legal documents, some involving a lawyer, and then there are still rights that are not addressed.
 
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