Hampton Inn Seagrove Beach on Chateau Hotel Property

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  1. Lake View Too

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    There's never been the snob issue like you seem to want to replay. It's about quality of life. It's about getting away from gridlock traffic and overcrowding. I have pride in my hometown and large hotels are ugly, not the people that stay in them (although there will be carloads of that type come spring break).

    Again, I smell hypocrisy. If this structure was going up next door to you, I doubt you would be defending it.
     
  2. poppy

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    I stay in Hampton Inns when I travel because it's one of the best values for my Hilton Honors Points. I have never seen people of a class I wouldn't associate with. I can't say they didn't look at me and feel the opposite.
     
  3. luca brazzi

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    "Big hotels are ugly". Now there's a compelling legal argument. If you want ugly, just look at the Emerald Grand.
     
  4. Lake View Too

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    Oh right. Legal argument trumps common sense. My bad.
     
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    Forget all this legal stuff and lets talk traffic! During lunchtime from January to March 15, I can do the drive from Eastern Lake to the gym at Watercolors in 8 minutes. During the tourist season it has taken me 45 minutes to get to Seaside!! I don't like the hotel in my neighborhood but legally speaking, planning had no alternative but to approve it. My suggestion.. Find every piece of dirt you can on our commissioners and bring it forward, just like our national politicians do and get them to vote NO!!:D
     
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    Legal stuff always trumps any other argument. When murderer walks because some cop didn't read him his rights, legal stuff trumps common sense. If the county commission votes it down and the developers take legal action the courts usually don't consider emotionally charged arguments. If I sunk over a million bucks into a piece of land with plans to develop it and it got the ax you better believe I'd go to court.
     
  7. Lake View Too

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    Again, the core of this issue is who makes the zoning laws. Is it elected officials? Is it appointed members of a board who arbitrarily set whatever standards they want? It was rather quietly exposed that the rules were significantly changed last spring. I'm a working stiff who has to work 12 hours a day to keep my head above water, so I can't attend many meetings, but surely some citizen's group can give me a little more insight in how this process works, and why it is apparently going downhill.
     
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    From what I have read it is evidently the lawyers of the developers.
     
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    Wow - I just spent my Saturday afternoon watching the video of the planning commission meeting. I have to say I was so impressed and proud of all of those citizens and representatives who spoke in opposition to the Hampton Inn project. From Seagrove Baptist church representatives to neighborhood association presidents to urban planners to attorneys and, most importantly, residents of 30a communities and specifically Eastern Lake residents, many valid arguments were made. So sorry that the planning commission saw fit to pass it.

    A great concern I have is that the County Commissioners will follow the advice of the Planning staff and the Planning Commission attorney (Mark ?) and automatically approve it as well because it meets the strict criteria (measurements) of the development policy of VMU. As Ms. Harris stated, is there never a time when the Planning Commission should use discernment to determine if a project should be approved? If not, just let the developer enter the project site plan, including number of proposed parking places, number and type of VMU buildings, height of light poles, traffic study findings, proposed drainage system, etc. into a software program and the screen will say "APPROVED" or "DENIED". No need for a Planning Commission or for a development proposal to go to the County Commission.

    Sorry to sound cynical, but I just don't understand why citizens VALID concerns can't be taken into account!
     
  11. hippiechick

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    I live in Seagrove Beach and can vouch for the traffic congestion during Spring and summer. It is awful. But I do not think anyone or anything will stop the Hampton Inn from being built. Will it add that much more traffic? Well look at the Prominence Development, North and South of 30a, and Alys beach, and Water color and WaterSound, how much traffic do you think all those new homes will generate? It will be a whole lot more than the Hampton Inn will generate. You can't have it both ways. If this area continues to grow at the rate it is being developed, it won't really matter if hotels build on 30a, because it is going to be grid lock regardless. I wish the Hotel was being built in a less developed part of 30a. Not everyone can afford to visit our area, and stay Saturday to Saturday. This will give Tourists an opportunity to visit 30a, and pay less to do so. Wait, weren't we all tourists once? Thanks TDC.
     
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    Next Steps to Defeat the Proposed Hampton Inn
    Once again, we are encouraged from the Planning Commission Hearing from this past week. Our voices and the arguments by our attorneys caused two Planning Commission members to vote against this project, despite the approval recommendation by their Planning staff.

    Additionally, the Planning Board asked that the County Commissioners look hard at making changes to development laws to prevent such developments from occurring on 30a. Folks we have the momentum on our side going into this final stage!

    We have met with our attorneys this week to prepare our strategy for the County Commission Hearing. In addition to presenting our legal arguments as to why this proposed development should be rejected, we will be bringing in expert witnesses to support our positions. We must let the Developer and the County Commissioners know this is unacceptable and we are prepared to defeat this proposal using our legal strength, expert testimonies, voter voices and financial support.

    If you are passionate about this cause, we need you to get behind this financially now.


    We must raise an additional $20,000 by Thursday January 22nd in order to make sure we have the funds needed to take this through the County Commission Hearing.
    The amount we are asking each of us to give will take care of the legal fees and professional fees for expert testimony. If each of us gives $50-$100, we will reach the amount needed and the excess will go toward getting development codes changed for the future.


    If you’ve already given before, then thank you and we need your help again. If you haven’t given yet, then please do so now.
    Our mutual cause and passion is worth the sacrifice in order to keep 30a the unique beauty we all love. Click here to give online. If you would rather send a check by mail, please make your check payable to South Walton Community Council and send to the following address:
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    Please, let’s not stop this fight before giving ourselves the chance to declare victory!
    PS – We will be sending you a list of email addresses and contacts later in the week so you can express your opposition in writing to County Commissioners. We will also keep you informed of our progress and the date, time and location of the County Commission Hearing.
     
  13. Jdarg

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    Stay up to date (or catch up) on all the news on this issue, meeting dates/times, get email addresses for elected officials, donate to the legal fund, and sign up for emails here http://lovemy30a.com/

    There is new news every day- you don't want to miss anything!
     
  14. steel1man

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    built on a less developed part of 30a?? So just not in Your back yard!? Well it Want be on the West End because all our large undeveloped parcels are called State Lands/Parks. #LOL #westendnaturalbeauty
    More Dune Lakes than new large developments.
     
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    The reason I mentioned the Hotel being built in a less congested area is for obvious reasons, but not what you are implying.
     
  16. Jdarg

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    Why do you think a Hampton Inn on 30A would be a budget option? It absolutely would not. There are already condos and studios that would be are cheaper than many Hampton Inns on interstate exits.
     
  17. 30A Skunkape

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    Here is a link started by Dawn back when the plan was to open Chateau 30-A as a condo complex. She looks to have copied and pasted the project announcement news release. Look at the language regarding beach access. The intent then, as it will be when (if) Hampton opens is that the logical beach access is the "public Eastern Lake access". This is a slap in the face to the people living in that area!

    Planned project amenities include a Cabana and Pool Club with zero entry swimming pool, an outdoor grilling area with fireplace, a fitness center, a Chateau Club Room and owners lockers. The property will feature limited commercial space with an onsite Beach Properties of Florida sales office. The beach is a short walk or bicycle ride to the public Eastern Lake Neighborhood beach access.

    http://sowal.com/bb/showthread.php/...ew-condos-in-Seagrove-Beach?highlight=chateau
     
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  18. Lake View Too

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    I'd take a slap in the face instead of a steady stream of tourons driving down my street trying to get to the beach and parking in front of my house. I think the pain will be inflicted in the other end, if you catch my drift.
     
  19. 30aconcerned

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    Yes, thanks TDC for your contributions in first suffocating the area and now choking it to death. After the demise of 30-A the TDC and hippiechick can move on to the next pristine area and destroy it..... if there are any areas like 30-A left to kill off.
     
  20. Zebraspots

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    Projects like this are why we have infrastructure problems. That you think it is merely making a bad situation worse is not a compelling argument for allowing it IMO.
     

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