Discussion in 'Local Government and Groups' started by BeachSiO2, Jul 15, 2007.
Hopefully if the vendors are following the rules - the others will follow. Lead by example.
Sob. What a discouraging report. Will you be here Sunday morning? The tags should appear Saturday night by stealth Sheriff after sunset. That is, if they are still following the Zone 7 schedule. And if so, on Monday morning all tagged stuff on the beach should be removed.
The beaches at Ramsgate are private on both sides of the access, aren't they? Sugar Dunes to the east is, for sure. And the Angelos property to the west wants to be, is still undecided by the BCC as far as I know. Is that the area you mean?
However, I can't get my mind around the enforcement. On a public beach, what if someone sets up Monday morning at 6:30 a.m.? If the TDC truck gets there at 7 a.m. (after sunrise), how will they know if that setup had been there overnight or not? I hadn't really thought out the implications of Phase II yet, but it still seems hard to implement.
Update on stickers: I bought some printer paper for removable stickers. Now I need a new printer, unfortunately. Also I need a design. What should it say? How big should it be? What graphics? What colors? Any suggestions? I haven't thought it out. Initially I'm thinking 12 stickers per sheet. That is, 3 wide by 4 high. Each sticker would be about 2.5" square. Say something like:
Remove it at Sunset
or Lose it at Sunrise
off the beach
beach at night.
I'll be leaving early Sunday AM for a week out of town. I sure would like to see a real live tag in person.
I'd expect that the beaches to either side of the Ramsgate access are indeed private, but they not posted for now. The only signs I see are on private walkovers, not the beach itself. I'm not familiar with either Sugar Dunes or the Angelos.
As I've said before, Saturday night tagging could be partially a waste. Renters typically arrive Saturday afternoon and some of them might not drag their stuff to the beach until Sunday AM.
Ramsgate is further west, near Summer's Edge
Ooops, I didn't know where Ramsgate was. Seems that it is west of Eastern Lake, about halfway to One Seagrove?
The renters you mention will litter the beach all week, coming just after tagging and leaving just before tagging. Not good.
Much closer to Eastern Lake than half to One Seagove. Ramsgate is the very next public access to the west of Eastern Lake. It's down at the western end of the little beachfront stub road where Eastern Lake drive does a U-turn at the Eastern Lake access and runs back to the west. It roughly lines up with the western leg of Chelsea Loop. It's used by a lot of Chelsea Loop and Summers Edge renters.
The most effective schedule for the whole county should be tag Sunday-Wednesday, remove Tues-Friday.
Try this sticker:
Does anyone have a status update on the tagging/cleanup?
Someone was complaining that items were just being taken to a dump site in Blue Mountain rather than being tagged and removed if they were still there a day later.
Phase II of the enforcement is under way now. No tagging, just bagging. I guess this was Mr. Brown's first official act as Head of Code Enforcement.
It's been a very slow few weeks since it started so it's difficult to tell it's impact when there just isn't any traffic to test it, but I think it's a great call and is the only way for this thing to stick.
Hmmm, I think less tagging, more bagging than phase I. Read the press release here:
Where I walk onto the beach at the access, on Saturday morning it was completely clear. I've never seen it look so beautiful and natural before. I'm very grateful.
Glad to see this county finally hired someone with some brass!
Anyone with at least one working braincell would have known that "tagging" system was lame, pointless and ineffective.
Rock on Brownie!!
This weekend should be an excellent test.
I can see brochures for South Walton Beach now.
Don't bother to visit - most of the beaches and accesses are private. And don't bother to bring anything to the beach if you do decide to visit - it is open season on anything you take to the beach - if you can safely get in the water - watch for jelly fish, bull sharks, and rip tides. (Maybe I can move down there and take the stuff from the beach and sell it back. )But hey, the locals got what they want. They can now drive and park their vehicles anywhere on the beach - no tourists, no tourist crap.
We decided to make reservations one more time for Grayton next year. We haven't been there for two years because we went on other trips with friends and family. It's a good thing we like to ride our bikes down there - but that is another issue isn't it?
I don't know what happened down there. Are they putting something in your water? Is paradise boring? Should you move?
Are you serious? Do you really think it is really ok to leave you junk all over the beach every night? My mom raised me to put my toys away every night before I went to bed - didn't yours?
Yes, TRASH! The littering of the beaches and abuse of people's goodwill reached the point that folks started taking action so that when you visit there is a pretty beach instead of a pile of garbage.
Looked at the Blue Mountain camera yesterday and again this morning. I could see what appeared to be two chairs in the distance and nothing else!!!!
That's because tourist season is over. I was the only person on Grayton beach for about an hour this morning, then 3 others showed up. Wish the clean beach was truly due to people being more thoughtful and cleaning up their stuff, and not due to the fact that there is hardly anybody here.
I did find a pair of shoes, a shirt, and a pair of shorts - but no apparent owner in sight. So whoever walked home naked and barefoot last night, your clothes are down at the beach.
Over the weekend- 3 or 4 tent structures, little trash compared to the summer amounts.
And UofL, driving is legal on Grayton Beach, but we have been through that argument. For now, it is legal. However, leaving your stuff on the beach overnight IS currently ILlegal. The laws are just being enforced - sorry if it inconveniences you. Maybe everyone that goes to our beautiful Louisville Olmstead parks like Cherokee and Seneca could leave tents, chairs, trash, and toys overnight all over the park. Bet that wouldn't fly for a week, much less all the time.:angry: The public outry would be amazing, so why criticize us wanting the same thing for our beaches?
UofL I actually never even thought of this as a local issue. I don't live in Sowal daily. But I do try to live there at least 2 weeks a year. I do want the beach clean when I'm there. I hate seeing junk on the beach. I always take my stuff home at the end of my day. Seems like everyone could do the same.
You're right: The beach trashers have left!! (May they leave forever and be replaced with reasonable people)
I can't wait to get there in Sept. when the beaches are clean, the weather is cooler and the place is not so busy.
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