Bobby, you really can learn some new things on SoWal. Take a look...
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My bad, got confused with wet sand, dry sand, high water, low water, mean lines............
This is almost as complicated as the butt coverage laws.
However, I did find your link interesting in that author states that Florida needs to dip their toes in the rough surf and revisit the Public Trust doctrine, the obvious.
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Not a problem. And that's the whole point, we can beat each other up here on SoWal all day (and all night;-) ) long and nothing will change (except maybe feelings). It must be decided in court ONE WAY or ANOTHER based on case law and based on ACTUAL facts, not what people think or feel.
However, but I did find your link interesting in that author states that Florida needs to dip their toes in the rough surf and revisit the Public Trust doctrine.
I was thinking about a question SJ asked me earlier: Why I haven't posted signs and run people off yet. I dodged the question somewhat and answered that it is an association issue (which it is).
But in reality, we have more problems with the people across the street coming through our property and parking lot and walkover than with the general public making their way down to our area of the beach (decent hike when loaded). So gates were put up which stopped the traffic from across the street.
It hasn't been a real issue for us YET as very few, if any, people on the beach don't belong to the condos other than people walking along the beach.
Redfish Village will change that eventually and our signs will probably go up then. Then it will become similar to the Retreat / Inn at Blue Mountain Beach situation.
Night night!
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The voice is the best for now, maybe with some suggestions presentations will improve
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The voice is the best for now, maybe with some suggestions presentations will improve
I don't check this blof often so please email me with questions or concerns through my website at
www.publicshore.com
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I agree!!
Speaking as a tourist who will NEVER own ocean/gulf front property, I would much rather spend my hard earned dollars visiting a state that goes to great lengths to let me know I am welcome on any beach in the state (including beaches that front 5 star resorts and homes worth millions) than a state that warns me to stay on the wet sand or face being arrested!!
Like I said earlier BMBV If I had a listing that said "private beach" I would remove the remarks right away. I would also be concerned if I had sold a peice and made a claim of a private beach. I see allot more liability there then selling property to people and showing them there deeded beach access conncected to supposed "private" beaches.
BMBV,
The SELLERS are the one who need to be disclosing material facts for the sale of their property, in the Real Property Disclosure Statements.
You can bet that I will be pointing out the craziness of the two thoughts of the beach ownership to anyone and everyone I can, including those who are buying property, and I might even encourage them to peacefully sit on the beach and enjoy a sunset, if they are willing to make a stand and possibly be arrested and taken to court, or face a lawsuit for damages by the property owner.
The SELLERS are the one who need to be disclosing material facts for the sale of their property, in the Real Property Disclosure Statements.
You can bet that I will be pointing out the craziness of the two thoughts of the beach ownership to anyone and everyone I can, including those who are buying property, and I might even encourage them to peacefully sit on the beach and enjoy a sunset, if they are willing to make a stand and possibly be arrested and taken to court, or face a lawsuit for damages by the property owner.
In answer to your question BlueMtBeach Vagrant, I have owned #8 at Sea Bluff since 1991. Our board, has never taken a direct position on use of our beach but NOBODY has been asked EVER to move. We do frown on the use of our walkover to access the beach, however, because of liabilty and other issues. The beach at the bottom of the bluff should be for EVERYONE as long as they are courteous and respectful. It is my opion, since I served to protect everyone's freedoms and rights, that the beach should be available to all. You can't build on it, you can't farm it and you can't do anything but sit on it and play on it. All should be able to do that.
Well that was so enlightening! Gosh I learned all kinds of things...I had no idea. And what a crap production (John R, someone desperately needs your services!!!!) for somthing as IMPORTANT as this!
Folks, don't waste 4 minutes and 29 seconds of your life looking at this. It's ALL been said before. I know everyone will now look at it since I criticize it. So if you do, all I can say is "I told you so".
Constructively speaking, Bobby, you really need to align yourself with someone more effective if you want to move your view along.