Max Cleland

[Here4Good]

i dont make the ratings, i just read them and the numbers speak for themselves.

And yet, you don't seem to understand how they relate to the real world.

 

[Winnie]

I pose, again, my original question. What is your position concerning 62 yo woman disable by MS after working from the age 17. I am also a cancer survivior and just fininshed chem due to begin radiation today. My BC/BS, coverage I have had since my teenage years of late decided retroactivley that they would no longer pay any claims unless and until Medicare was billed first. Medicare has thus far failed to pay any claims. My surgeon who performed my masectomy has submitted bills repeatedly but Medicare has paid nothing. I expect at some point the bills will be sent directly to me for payment. What, pray tell, have I been paying premiums for . I have delayed calculating the amount of money I have paid BC over the years only to find that there is nothing there. Someday, I would be happy to tell you the story of my interactions with the BC patient care coordinator. It is tragically hysterical. I am sure many feel that getting sick is something I brought on myself. But what about the family whose child is injured by a drunk driver. Their insurace will be cancelled, depending on the severity of the injuries. Or what about my niece whose lawyer husband had excellent insurance that was instantly terminated when she experienced a complicateed delivery during which the child, while surviving, was oxygen deprived for an extended time and now is totally incapacitated. Their insurance was terminated before the baby made it to neonatal ICU. What do you think? what do you think will happend to your and your families' medical insurance, when you need it?

It is terrible - that's what I think. I don't think you brought being sick on yourself.

I always thought that if your provider accepts Medicare you would never owe more than the "allowable amount." So, if Medicare denied the entire thing (no amount allowed) and your other insurance doesn't cover anything not allowed under Medicare, you are off the hook. Obviously, I know very little about insurance and how it works.

If you are having this much trouble with Medicare, I would think you would really be opposed to a public option for the rest of us!

We need reform without a public option! I hope that is what we get.

 

[Winnie]

Yes. Getting away from lib vs. conservative jib-jab, I don't love, but rather despise the way "facts" only figure into an equation or argument when they give only support to one side or other.

A fact used to be.....a fact. ( I was raised old school)

Like, fact is, the world is not older than 6,000,000 years. There will be some Americans who dispute this as fact because they have their own set of facts to support it. I cannot argue with that.

I heard Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann interiewed the other day on Fox and she said we only need to get down to the "true facts" as far as the healthcare argument is concerned.... I used to think all facts were true??

"Factuality" in America today is strictly pick and choose now. Anyone can play!

Will you cite a source for this please?

A fact is a concept whose truth can be proved. http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=fact
It can be misrepresented, but not adjusted to fit ones argument.
All facts, by definition, are true.

 

[Eileen West]

that could be funny....

fart blossom? now thats thinking alright.....

Hey, That's not my nickname for him That's what ex-pres Bush called him. Now, THAT's thinking for ya.

 

[AlphaCrab]

Will you cite a source for this please?

A fact is a concept whose truth can be proved. WordNet Search - 3.0
It can be misrepresented, but not adjusted to fit ones argument.
All facts, by definition, are true.

But don't you think this is what is happening in this debate over healthcare? ..on both sides?

 

[Winnie]

But don't you think this is what is happening in this debate over healthcare? ..on both sides?

No.

 

[poppy]

 

[LuciferSam]

thats funny :funn:. man crush, god no!!!! i just cant believe what he does and what comes out of his mouth. i mean, he actually lies to his audience about his viewer ratings when its all there for the public to see. i still click on him sometimes but its only because of curiosity. one can truly see where alot of so-called liberals get there mindset. if they only knew. its not liberalism, its political hate driven by an aggenda. thats not news in the least, not even close. and than you got maddow who tilts american history to push an obama aggenda. things that we learned in grade school for godsake. i just cant understand why some havent seen this yet. most have hense the ratings, but many have yet too.

You certainly didn't learn to spell in grade school. What the hell is an aggenda?

 

[Iris]

You certainly didn't learn to spell in grade school. What the hell is an aggenda?

Obviously you are a secretary or an admin assistant commonly known in the military as a comma momma. I used to write more on this site but the normally less educated comma momma's had nothing to do with their time but make grammatical and spelling corrections, therefore diluting individuals comments and thoughts by belittling them for their typo and minor grammatical errors.

I will have more to say about Max, but will save it for tomorrow.....after I hear all of your complaints about my comments on all of the Comma Mamma's.

 

[aggieb]

:shock: holy moly.