Mike Vick

[NoHall]

Celebrities, including sports celebrities, are often mistaken at being good people. However, being good, is an honor which is earned, and does not come from excelling at football. I'll be glad when our role models are people with with good hearts, rather than people with phatt bank rolls from face time on the television and movie screens.

"To whom much is given, much will be required."

People who live in the eye of the public have a responsiblity, whether they accept it or not.

 

[iwishiwasthere]

You really don't want to know unless you really really want to get pissed off. I walked in my door yesterday, and my wife imediately went ballistic...she needed to vent. Her feelings, mine too, run pretty much in line with all you guys above.

Here's what is really sad. The Falcon's won't cut him loose for damage control because of what it will do to their salary cap, and the NFL has said no suspension...

Nice, huh?

I thought it involved him and his brother both, but maybe I heard wrong. IWIWT, you don't want to know what was done to some of those dogs. Pit bulls or not, it makes me so mad!!!

Okay, I won't go looking. I do not think I could stand to read about the abuse. That is why I usually avoid the news.....always a tragedy.

 

[jay]

I really hate to see someone that is so cruel take it out on animals I hope they ruin this guy. I have a young female pit I raised from a tiny puppy I rescued from under a trailer where abuse had led to the deaths of her siblings. She is the sweetest most loving dog I have ever owned and has never even chewed up a shoe. A house dog with her own bed that is when she is not sneeking into mine becuase she is scared of the thunder.

 

[sandflea]

I understand the indictment is for Michael- Marcus has already shown he's an idiot. My point was they are both idiots and need to learn big lessons.

 

[ktschris]

I had heard about this a few months back. SI actually had a very detailed article about a month back. According to the article, there very well could be a few more big name athletes involved. Let's hope he rolls on them!
It was amazing to read that quite a few of his friends and teammates defended him!!!! I wish I could find the link because it was worth reading.

 

[Smiling JOe]

First, let me say that I fully believe that it is wrong to torture animals. (I learned this after killing many ants and beetles with a magnifying glass as a kid. sorry.) Someone on this thread suggested we do the same to Vick as he did to the dogs. While I will not directly associate the entertainment-sport of football to the killing of dogs, I think in some small ways, the dog fighting is not too dissimilar to football. There are typically two opponents, each rewarded for winning. The losing team is punished. (there is no comparison to killing the loser to having a reduction in pay or being traded. -- don't take my comparison that literally.) There is also a crowd of spectators, usually betting on one team or dog to win. Some football teams, like UGA, are even named the Bulldogs. With professional teams, there is an owner, just like the dogs' owner. They are in it for the money. If their "dog" isn't making money, they find a better-trained "dog" to put on the team and ditch the "dog" which isn't producing.

I seem to recall a history in Rome, when men were placed in a ring to fight to the death. It was a spectator sport. While today's football game is a long way from the old Roman sports, on the surface, it isn't greatly different in action. There is just more civility now, and big paychecks for the actual players.

While I don't watch football regularly, I have enjoyed playing football in high school, and I have enjoyed watching a few college and pro games. Am I blaming Vick's actions on football? Not at all. I'm just observing slight similarities between the Vick and the dogs.

 

[ktschris]

First, let me say that I fully believe that it is wrong to torture animals. (I learned this after killing many ants and beetles with a magnifying glass as a kid. sorry.) Someone on this thread suggested we do the same to Vick as he did to the dogs. While I will not directly associate the entertainment-sport of football to the killing of dogs, I think in some small ways, the dog fighting is not too dissimilar to football. There are typically two opponents, each rewarded for winning. The losing team is punished. (there is no comparison to killing the loser to having a reduction in pay or being traded. -- don't take my comparison that literally.) There is also a crowd of spectators, usually betting on one team or dog to win. Some football teams, like UGA, are even named the Bulldogs. With professional teams, there is an owner, just like the dogs' owner. They are in it for the money. If their "dog" isn't making money, they find a better-trained "dog" to put on the team and ditch the "dog" which isn't producing.

I seem to recall a history in Rome, when men were placed in a ring to fight to the death. It was a spectator sport. While today's football game is a long way from the old Roman sports, on the surface, it isn't greatly different in action. There is just more civility now, and big paychecks for the actual players.

While I don't watch football regularly, I have enjoyed playing football in high school, and I have enjoyed watching a few college and pro games. Am I blaming Vick's actions on football? Not at all. I'm just observing slight similarities between the Vick and the dogs.

But you leave out the most important disimilarities, --- Vick CHOSE to play football, these dogs don't have that option.

 

[Smiling JOe]

But you leave out the most important disimilarities, --- Vick CHOSE to play football, these dogs don't have that option.

My focus was on similarities, not differences. There are plenty of differences, and as I mentioned, I don't think that killing animals for not winning a fight is in any way similar to an athlete getting sent to another team, or getting his or her contract renegotiated for less pay.

 

[TripleB]

For the record....I only endorse female mud wrestling.

 

[Sheila]

For the record....I only endorse female mud wrestling.

:roll::roll:Oddly enough, this doesn't shock me. :funn: