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kitlit

Beach Fanatic
Dec 11, 2007
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Seagrove Beach
So if I follow your (attempted) logic, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, and CNN are members of a Sowal clique because they agree LSVs aren't safe to use on public roads with regular cars? :roll:

Damn. That's a lotta people. I hope our club has healthy reserves, because I'm NOT paying for all those secret decoder rings... :lol:
 

nr light

Beach Comber
Mar 4, 2010
24
4
Destin, FL
Lets stop getting so personal. All if this is still hypothetical anyway right?

We are all GUESSING on what will happen when we increase the number of LSVs on 30a. Will there be an outrageous number of fatal accidents? Would we lower the speed limit? Who knows!

I am afraid this forum has gotten severely off topic. Lets focus. How are LSV's good, and How are they bad. Does the good outweigh the bad and vice versa. To me, Yes, Good outweighs the bad. From what I've read, we have research to document the good, and we have a lot of "what ifs" to create the bad.

I'm still trying to work it out so that I can bring a LSV out to ya'll so you can see :)
 

Will B

Moderator
Jan 5, 2006
4,563
1,317
Atlanta, GA
I'm still trying to work it out so that I can bring a LSV out to ya'll so you can see :)

I hear you can tow one very easily behind a Suburban or a Tahoe!
:clap::lolabove::clap:

Sorry...that was a big haning curveball that I had to hit out of the park!

You all may resume beating the dead horse that lies before you!
 

scooterbug44

SoWal Expert
May 8, 2007
16,706
3,339
Sowal
We are all GUESSING on what will happen when we increase the number of LSVs on 30a. Will there be an outrageous number of fatal accidents? Would we lower the speed limit? Who knows!

I am afraid this forum has gotten severely off topic. Lets focus. How are LSV's good, and How are they bad. Does the good outweigh the bad and vice versa. To me, Yes, Good outweighs the bad. From what I've read, we have research to document the good, and we have a lot of "what ifs" to create the bad.

I'm still trying to work it out so that I can bring a LSV out to ya'll so you can see :)

IMO the only "good" things about a LSV on 30-A are that it gets better mileage than many SUVs and takes up less space when parked properly.

That is all.

From a traffic, infrastructure, usage, and especially safety standpoint I think they are VERY bad.

Since many cars and hybrid or electric vehicles have those same benefits WITHOUT those massive safety issues, I do not find any reason to bring all of those negatives to 30-A.

P.S. I've seen/inspected a LSV, my concerns have nothing to do with being unfamiliar with them. In fact, some of my concerns are from firsthand observation of their use. ;-)

P.P.S. This is actually a VERY focused discussion for us.
 

Rita

margarita brocolia
Dec 1, 2004
5,207
1,634
Dune Allen Beach
Let me let you in on a little secret. I don't care. Seriously. If the speed limit is 35 where it is currently 45 it won't bother me. If you get to drive your golf cart from Gulf Trace to get groceries I have no issue with it.

Why then (you ask)- would I continue to discuss/debate strongly taking a side? Simple- because I like to argue. And when I see weak arguments I cannot resist pointing it out.

Please-
Will one of you just be real here and take the approach that we live in a really unique area and that it would be enjoyable for residents and visitors alike if we could cart around on smaller street legal recreational vehicles when we're on 30A rather than the big SUV's we use to get our people and our stuff here from Atlanta or over to Destin.

Please-
Would one of you who stand to gain financially from the lowering of the speed limit step up and say that you own or plan on owning an LSV rental company and that it is a joy to motor from town to town along 30A. Invite locals to stop in for a free trial rental.

Please-
Would all of you stop trying to convince us that by lowering the speed limit anyone here will be safer, that we will be better stewards of the planet, that we will be better members of the Sierra Club or that we will reduce our dependence on oil. No one is buying it and no one believes the speed limit should be changed under the guise of these talking points. I bolded the one sentence in your last post that resonates.

:wave:

EDIT:

BTW- You forgot about the 45MPH stretch of 30A on the far west end. People staying at Topsail are currently unable to go to legally go to Tom Thumb in an LSV.
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Someone's attempting to take y'all for a ride!.. :nono1:
nr light, Ecco Motors (natalie@eccomo.gccoxmail.com), was given the opportunity to "step up" and admit a reason to gain financially but has chosen to continue to be disingenuous - to say the least.
This is not right! Why should we trust one who pulls this bs, or trust their information to be anything more than a sales pitch?..:angry:
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Please follow these links:
http://www.sowal.com/bb/long-term-rentals/49420-seagrove-beach.html#post684956
http://www.sowal.com/bb/sale-trade-free-wanted/44777-used-golf-cart.html
http://www.sowal.com/bb/business-goods-services/13507-golf-cart-rental.html#post651635


what goes around comes around .......... Happy New Year!
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30A Skunkape

Skunky
Jan 18, 2006
10,314
2,349
55
Backatown Seagrove
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Someone's attempting to take y'all for a ride!.. :nono1:
nr light (natalie@eccomo.gccoxmail.com) was given the opportunity to "step up" and admit a reason to gain financially but has chosen to continue to be disingenuous to say the least.
This is not right! Why should we trust one who pulls this bs, or trust their information to be anything more than a sales pitch?..:angry:
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Please follow these links:
http://www.sowal.com/bb/long-term-rentals/49420-seagrove-beach.html#post684956
http://www.sowal.com/bb/sale-trade-free-wanted/44777-used-golf-cart.html
http://www.sowal.com/bb/business-goods-services/13507-golf-cart-rental.html#post651635


what goes around comes around .......... Happy New Year!
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Hmmphh...
 

Rita

margarita brocolia
Dec 1, 2004
5,207
1,634
Dune Allen Beach
You are a part of an online clique, say it, it will be fun. You personally know all the people who post in agreement that LSV's shouldn't be allowed on 30A, even though they already are allowed all over 30A, except on the scant stretches with 45mph.
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The thread linked below blows a hole in the "group think" BS!

Note the diverse variety of SoWal peeps posting in it - notably ShallowsNole (not for), AndyA (not for), Hop (leans for), etc. .......................... "group think" is a huge laugh!!
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http://www.sowal.com/bb/local-government/43847-lowering-speed-limit-30a.html



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LuciferSam

Banned
Apr 26, 2008
4,749
1,069
Sowal
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Someone's attempting to take y'all for a ride!.. :nono1:
nr light (natalie@eccomo.gccoxmail.com) was given the opportunity to "step up" and admit a reason to gain financially but has chosen to continue to be disingenuous to say the least.
This is not right! Why should we trust one who pulls this bs, or trust their information to be anything more than a sales pitch?..:angry:
.
Please follow these links:
http://www.sowal.com/bb/long-term-rentals/49420-seagrove-beach.html#post684956
http://www.sowal.com/bb/sale-trade-free-wanted/44777-used-golf-cart.html
http://www.sowal.com/bb/business-goods-services/13507-golf-cart-rental.html#post651635


what goes around comes around .......... Happy New Year!
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Reminds me of the Chewlies Gum salesman.

YouTube - Scott Schiaffo Clerks Scene 1
 
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