Petition to Ban Confederate Flag from Walton County Courthouse

[jkmason]

I hear you Andy, Intelligent conversations involving two points of view are almost impossible on this forum. I'll leave it at that. Back to the beach I go....

 

[Leader of the Banned]

Well, there you go again hijacking my question for the purpose of what?

Calling people names again? Does that make you feel superior or something? Listen, aren't we mature grownups just trying to have a discussion. Why does it have to go to this level?

What do you mean "there you go again". That post is almost a month old. Not only that, the post was not a reply to you or anyone else. it stood on its own. You're so self-important, so self-important!

 

[Bob Hudson]

 

[Lake View Too]

This is a direct quote from the Cornerstone Speech of the Confederacy:

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

This is what The Confederacy was founded on. The Confederate flag represents the Confederacy. All this entirely stupid conversation has been about one person trying to deny this. Shame on all of us for letting one person's willful ignorance occupy our time.

 

[Teresa]

I have stayed out of this partially because I am not a native Southerner but was born and raised a Westerner. I went to completely integrated schools from elementary through high school. In the military, I flew with both black pilots and co-pilots and had them, as well as maintenance support, as friends. I also have three bi-racial (black) grand daughters that I love most dearly. I say all this before I express my opinion on the Confederate flag flying at the memorial. The flag should be considered a part of the overall memorial to Confederate soldiers who gave their lives for a cause, flawed as it was, that they believed in. If you wish the flag to fly on private property, let the county deed the small plot of land to the founders of the memorial. A memorial is just that, a memorial and please don't tell me the flag wasn't always a part of it. The point is, it is now, and should remain so. Racism should not be a part of this debate. The debate should be about what is done to honor those who went before us.

Good thoughts. Appreciate your perspective without bringing pride and heritage into it, which southerners keep repeating out of habit like a religion. According to a CNN survey, most white people agree with you. Most blacks do not, and with reason.

 

[miznotebook]

Some perspective. This is from 2012. The United States has come a long way. Also remember that women did not get the right to vote until 1920.
http://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation

 

[Leader of the Banned]

Yes, as George Carlin put it our country was founded by men who were "unconscionably full of sh**". It was founded by "slave owners who wanted to be free". Put another way it was founded by a bunch of slave-owning aristocratic white men who didn't want to pay taxes. So let's remember and lament our nation's indiscretions of the past, but let's not honor these indiscretions in any way shape or form. We shouldn't judge the descendants of the people involved, but unfortunately it seems we have to remind them that their ancestors may not have been good people and one should not try to follow in their footsteps. Sometimes thee best mantra is "like father like son like hell".

 

[Dawn]

It’s hot. And, it’s not just the weather. As counties and municipalities across the south capitulate to pressure to remove the Confederate Flag from public monuments, buildings and war memorials, the temperature on both sides remain as heated as 1861.

Last Tuesday, Commissioners heard pleas from Attorney Daniel Uhlfelder and supporters demanding they remove the flag immediately from the War Memorial at the county courthouse. Uhlfelder presented 1,300 signatures as evidence that there is support for such a move.

However, supporters of the flag were just as vocal and filled the South Walton governmental chamber to present their side as well. Freeport resident Danny Glidewell presented 500 signatures from one community alone demonstrating support for keeping the flag in place and reminding commissioners that it won’t stop there. “Next, it will be The Ten Commandments and Christmas display,” Glidewell said. The City of Crestview removed the flag last week.

Commissioners were in no mood to be rushed and rebuked repeated cries to remove the flag immediately. In order to give residents in other areas of the county time to comment, Commissioners delayed a decision until their next meeting Tuesday, July 28th at the Walton County Courthouse in Defuniak Springs.

If you want to be heard on whether the Confederate Flag should be removed from the War Memorial at the Courthouse, Commissioners will hear from the public as they take up the issue at 9 AM, Tuesday, July 28th at the Walton County Courthouse Board Room, 571 Nelson Avenue, in Defuniak Springs.

 

[Leader of the Banned]

Yes the 10 commandments and Christmas display should be removed, but that has nothing to do with the battle flag, unless Danny is somehow using religion to support flying the flag, which would be really scary, but not surprising.

 

[Danny Glidewell]

It’s hot. And, it’s not just the weather. As counties and municipalities across the south capitulate to pressure to remove the Confederate Flag from public monuments, buildings and war memorials, the temperature on both sides remain as heated as 1861.

Last Tuesday, Commissioners heard pleas from Attorney Daniel Uhlfelder and supporters demanding they remove the flag immediately from the War Memorial at the county courthouse. Uhlfelder presented 1,300 signatures as evidence that there is support for such a move.

However, supporters of the flag were just as vocal and filled the South Walton governmental chamber to present their side as well. Freeport resident Danny Glidewell presented 500 signatures from one community alone demonstrating support for keeping the flag in place and reminding commissioners that it won’t stop there. “Next, it will be The Ten Commandments and Christmas display,” Glidewell said. The City of Crestview removed the flag last week.

Commissioners were in no mood to be rushed and rebuked repeated cries to remove the flag immediately. In order to give residents in other areas of the county time to comment, Commissioners delayed a decision until their next meeting Tuesday, July 28th at the Walton County Courthouse in Defuniak Springs.

If you want to be heard on whether the Confederate Flag should be removed from the War Memorial at the Courthouse, Commissioners will hear from the public as they take up the issue at 9 AM, Tuesday, July 28th at the Walton County Courthouse Board Room, 571 Nelson Avenue, in Defuniak Springs.

Two corrections Dawn, I have not lived in Freeport in about 25 years. Did get married there though. I live in Glendale, north of DeFuniak Springs. Have lived there all of my life excepting 4 years in Freeport and 4 years in Troy, AL. I am a proud graduate of Walton High School and Troy University.

2nd, what I presented were the results of an on-line survey conducted by the DeFuniak Herald-Breeze. The results were 951 in favor of the flag staying and 47 in favor of it being removed.