Sarah Palin, Creationist???

[Rita]

This is the first year our school district has offered Mandarin Chinese for the High Schools. There is also Latin, French and Spanish offerings. It is a larger school district.

In the 60's the small rural Illinois school I attended offered French and Latin. The Catholics took the Latin plus a few other kids. Smart choice - as it helps tremendously with knowing the roots of words.

 

[CiaoBella]

Pleased to meet you, won't you guess my name?

Nobody should want to waste their time guessing your name....you are insignificant. Seriously, what an attention-seeking loser to name yourself after the most evil.

 

[Rudyjohn]

Nobody should want to waste their time guessing your name....you are insignificant. Seriously, what an attention-seeking loser to name yourself after the most evil.

I believe that is a Rolling Stones quote.

 

[NoHall]

you, unfortunately are wasting your time with folks who believe fairy tales should be taught in school. It makes for more well rounded scientists.

I teach fairy tales...Weren't they devised to teach larger truths?

So many black lines everywhere. I've already said that I do believe in intelligent design (which is not the same as creationism, which is very strange stuff.*)

But I don't have any problem with it being taught as philosophy rather than SCIENCE. (I put that in caps because it has become so big and scary.) I teach ethics and etiquette in my drum class, math in my band class, ergonomics in my piano class, physiology in my chorus class, literature in my drama class, and philosophy in all of the above. (It was my undergraduate degree; I can't help it.) I just hope to heaven that whether my hypothetical children are in public or private school, someone will teach them philosophy in their other classes.

* For more evidence of how weird it is, go to www.creationism.org, where you can read part of the Bible translated into Klingon. I'm not making this up.

 

[Jdarg]

Nobody should want to waste their time guessing your name....you are insignificant. Seriously, what an attention-seeking loser to name yourself after the most evil.

Personal attack.

 

[Matt J]

I took a religious studies class in high school and remember very clearly that the entire semester was Christianity until the final week when we blew thru the remaining religions of the world. I spent most of the time pointing out the hypocrisy of the bible* and how most people in the class and teaching it weren't actually practicing what they were preaching. To pass the class I actually had to go to an administrative hearing since the final exam was not only 90% christian questions, but some were actually wrong based on the bible itself.

We were taught a scientific theory in biology that had documented research, facts, and science to back it up that stated we evolved from lower life forms and that in fact we were in a constant state of change as a species. There were actually students who were allowed to leave the classroom during this due to "religious differences". However no mention of a religious belief ever came up.

I guess what I'm trying to understand is why a belief is being taught in science? It is not a theory or an alternative, it is a belief. If it is not and I'm wrong then I ask why we continue with society, government, education, or anything else. If we truly start teaching these things in school then we might as well teach that the world is ending soon, and if that is true, then again why is anything we do on a day to day basis even worth while? Why have we come all this way from being naked in the woods with fig leaves if it's all going to be obliterated?

*By hypocrisy I mean the parts that contradict the other parts.

 

[Smiling JOe]

According to the dictionary, "creationism" fits some definitions of "theory."

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1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.
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[NoHall]

According to the dictionary, "creationism" fits some definitions of "theory."

the?o?ry

Audio Help /ˈθi

ə

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i/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[thee-uh-ree, theer-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun, plural -ries. 1.a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. 2.a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. 3.Mathematics. a body of principles, theorems, or the like, belonging to one subject: number theory. 4.the branch of a science or art that deals with its principles or methods, as distinguished from its practice: music theory. 5.a particular conception or view of something to be done or of the method of doing it; a system of rules or principles. 6.contemplation or speculation. 7.guess or conjecture.
American Heritage:

1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.
3. A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.
4. Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.
5. A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.
6. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.

So does the theory of evolution. (Don't throw stuff at me. I'm playing devil's advocate.)

 

[Matt J]

Well people have theorized that Smiling JOe is a group of people that post, but I don't see it being taught in SWHS science classes anytime soon.

If folks want creationism taught fine, then they also have to teach the theories of every major world religion and the Christian Scientists crackpot theory. That should be enough to confuse our children into oblivion. Heck why even teach science, the Earth is flat, a snake swallows the sun each day, and thunder is just god bowling. :roll:

 

[NoHall]

Well people have theorized that Smiling JOe is a group of people that post, but I don't see it being taught in SWHS science classes anytime soon.

If folks want creationism taught fine, then they also have to teach the theories of every major world religion and the Christian Scientists crackpot theory. That should be enough to confuse our children into oblivion. Heck why even teach science, the Earth is flat, a snake swallows the sun each day, and thunder is just god bowling. :roll:

It doesn't matter what's in the curriculum. My students already know everything (according to them.)