So what is the Tea Party?

[Minnie]

I don't like any of the signs that discredit our President, whether I support every decision he makes or not. I don't feel such a display is in good taste or helps promote what a group is trying to accomplish. And I certainly do not think it improves our image to the world.

However what is happening now to President Obama also happened to President Bush. Not much has changed except the colors of the team uniform.

 

[skinnergy]

There is no doubt that there were reprehensible signs at some anti-Bush rallies. I only posted the N word sign for those in denial who say there is no racism at teabagger rallies. When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. How anybody in their right mind can defend this movement after seeing the blatant, outright racism on display is simply beyond me. If you don't believe there is a racist faction at the tea parties, you have your head up your...in the sand.

 

[30ashopper]

There is no doubt that there were reprehensible signs at some anti-Bush rallies. I only posted the N word sign for those in denial who say there is no racism at teabagger rallies. When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. How anybody in their right mind can defend this movement after seeing the blatant, outright racism on display is simply beyond me. If you don't believe there is a racist faction at the tea parties, you have your head up your...in the sand.

By that logic, no one should be supporting the progressive movement either. One bad eggs makes a bad bunch, throw them all out?

 

[Gidget]

I wasn't referring to the signs, all of which seem pretty tame to me. Comparatively though, some of the stuff I've seen from the left is far more extreme. For example, a picture of Bush with a gun shot in his forehead? What would be the reaction if someone showed up at a tea party rally with something similar? Thankfully, stuff like that isn't take place.

I never ever liked or condoned those types of anti-Bush posters although I never saw one as extreme as the one you mentioned (I'm certain they were out there though)

Wasn't the tea party movement started by Ron Paul supporters? Seems it has unfortunately gotten to be more in line with the Sarah Palin/Limbaugh/Beck types now. Ron Paul followers are usually a lot less extreme and more toward the middle. (most, certainly not all) Too bad they didn't stay "in charge" of the movement or "revolution". I know they hate seeing it go this crazy.

This is about race with many - not all - as is evident from the emails I've received from LA and AR family and friends. We can never say that it isn't about race with some but of course no one would claim to say that it is about race with the entire GOP. But no doubt it is there with many.

Let's hope the middle will prevail somehow through all this and we can get to work to make things better for all.

G

 

[30ashopper]

What I'm most curious about is why all the attacks on the tea partiers seem to revolve around superficial issues. Maybe this is all backlash from some of the more superficial attacks on Obama? I would think if people disagreed with tea partiers, they would criticize their policy stances - limited government, individual rights, balanced budgets, respect for the Constitution, and fair taxation. But I've really not heard much if anything from the progressives related to why these policies are bad for the country. It's all about protest signs, supposed racial attacks and "the spitting incident". I have to wonder, are progressives avoiding the policy discussion?

 

[AndrewG]

Progressives know their ideas are unfavorable with the majority. They always have been. Prohibition is another great Progressive piece of legislation. The think they know what's best for other people and the ends justify the means no matter how they get there. In order to get unfavorable legislation passed they have to keep everyone's attention focused on something else.

Obama's right hand man Rahm Emmanuel has said don't ever let a good crisis go to waste. They just have to keep finding ways to make them happen.

Look up Saul Alinsky. This is an old playbook.

 

[Matt J]

What I'm most curious about is why all the attacks on the tea partiers seem to revolve around superficial issues. Maybe this is all backlash from some of the more superficial attacks on Obama? I would think if people disagreed with tea partiers, they would criticize their policy stances - limited government, individual rights, balanced budgets, respect for the Constitution, and fair taxation. But I've really not heard much if anything from the progressives related to why these policies are bad for the country. It's all about protest signs, supposed racial attacks and "the spitting incident". I have to wonder, are progressives avoiding the policy discussion?

Those aren't policies, they're sound bites. Sure every teabagger can name them, but can they explain them or even come close to forming an idea of how to carry them out?

Progressives know their ideas are unfavorable with the majority. They always have been. Prohibition is another great Progressive piece of legislation. The think they know what's best for other people and the ends justify the means no matter how they get there. In order to get unfavorable legislation passed they have to keep everyone's attention focused on something else.

Obama's right hand man Rahm Emmanuel has said don't ever let a good crisis go to waste. They just have to keep finding ways to make them happen.

Look up Saul Alinsky. This is an old playbook.

Prohibition is a progressive idea? I could have sworn that was backed by religious nuts.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States"]Prohibition in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
Temperance movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Because of the correlation between drinking and domestic violence—many drunken husbands abused family members—the temperance movement existed alongside various women's rights and other movements, including the Progressive movement, and often the same activists were involved in all of the above.

Of course they were also against domestic/spousal abuse, is that a good old family value you hold dear?

 

[Minnie]

I never ever liked or condoned those types of anti-Bush posters although I never saw one as extreme as the one you mentioned (I'm certain they were out there though)

Wasn't the tea party movement started by Ron Paul supporters? Seems it has unfortunately gotten to be more in line with the Sarah Palin/Limbaugh/Beck types now. Ron Paul followers are usually a lot less extreme and more toward the middle. (most, certainly not all) Too bad they didn't stay "in charge" of the movement or "revolution". I know they hate seeing it go this crazy.

This is about race with many - not all - as is evident from the emails I've received from LA and AR family and friends. We can never say that it isn't about race with some but of course no one would claim to say that it is about race with the entire GOP. But no doubt it is there with many.

Let's hope the middle will prevail somehow through all this and we can get to work to make things better for all.

G

Its about race with some, but many Republicans would have been very pleased to have Colin Powell for President.

 

[Matt J]

Its about race with some, but many Republicans would have been very pleased to have Colin Powell for President.

A lot of Democrats too.

 

[poppy]

Its about race with some, but many Republicans would have been very pleased to have Colin Powell for President.

A lot of Democrats too.

True, but the Republican leadership attacked him at every turn so there was never a chance he could win the nomination and he was wise enough to know this.