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We might be hastily assuming that Obama won't be serving a third term as president.
 

Bob

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Oh please! Spare me the sermon! [edit] And to answer your pie in the sky hypothetical thought experiment question, the answer is of course I would vote for her if I thought she was the best choice no matter what line she crossed. This is ridiculous. It would mean that whomever she was running against is even worse. What mature moral adult wouldn't go that route?
What may be ridiculous is that the collective thought is that politicians like Hillary can be around for 30-40 years, taking money from everyone/corporation/government possible, and thinking, even remotely, that she could be the best possible outcome. You have to have a wide moral sphere to give this type of egregious behavior a pass.
 

Bob

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This sums up my thoughts too. That makes $0.04. The Republicans stand for too many things I can't accept. Plus, they are crazy.
I'm referring specifically about Hillary. I'm challenging you giving her a pass because"she's your candidate", or the Republicans are crazy. At what point would you ever admit that she is also part of the problem?
 

Bob

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Bob, you seem to be painting Clinton as some sort of hideous monster. Let's face it: they are clever, smart politicians. I had to admire someone who sat for 9 hours against an onslaught of Republican attack at the 9th Bengazi committee hearing, without flinching. Every election is always a choice of the lesser of two evils. What candidate are you favoring at this point?
If what I have shown you in this thread does not illustrate my point well enough for you, then, nothing will. Her sitting for 9 hours has nothing to do with how she conducts her never ending quest for tribute from anyone willing to give. This is not a Democrat/ Republican issue. This is about understanding who you are voting for and the rationalizations that allow political dynasties regardless of the greed and corruption.
 

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What may be ridiculous is that the collective thought is that politicians like Hillary can be around for 30-40 years, taking money from everyone/corporation/government possible, and thinking, even remotely, that she could be the best possible outcome. You have to have a wide moral sphere to give this type of egregious behavior a pass.

Thankfully I don't share your view of Hillary, nor your moral compass.
 

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The last tranformational candidate was Barack Obama and see what that got us. I'm not sure absolute moral imperatives are a wise criteria to use in presidential politics anymore. Is voting for Bernie the equivalent of voting for Nader?
 

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The last tranformational candidate was Barack Obama and see what that got us. I'm not sure absolute moral imperatives are a wise criteria to use in presidential politics anymore. Is voting for Bernie the equivalent of voting for Nader?

Not exactly. If by chance Bernie were to absolutely demolish Hillary in the Primaries, then that might mean he's really strong going into the general election. I doubt this will happen. The thing that scares me about Bernie is that I don't see him getting crossover vote from Republicans. For example, I know a couple who wanted Ben Carson, who of course is out of the picture. They would vote for Hillary over Trump or Cruz. I don't know if they feel the same way about Bernie. I do know that if you use your heart rather than your head, and obsess over petty moral infractions and character flaws, then it's a recipe for disaster. Ask anyone who voted for GWB over Al Gore. Oh wait, that would be Bob, wouldn't it?
 

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I'm referring specifically about Hillary. I'm challenging you giving her a pass because"she's your candidate", or the Republicans are crazy. At what point would you ever admit that she is also part of the problem?
Tell us which Republican sleazebag you support and why.
 

Andy A

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If you read this thread you will soon realize why most conservatives no longer post on SoWal.
 
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