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2bfabian

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if (window.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = "show"; var tocHideText = "hide"; showTocToggle(); } Summary of Events Leading up to the Genocide

Somewhat surprisingly to many, Armenians and Turks lived in relative harmony in the Ottoman Empire for centuries. Armenians were known as the "loyal millet". During these times, although Armenians were not equal and had to put up with certain special hardships, taxes and second class citizenship, they were pretty well accepted and there was relatively little violent conflict. Things began to change for a number of reasons. Nationalism, a new force in the world, reared its head and made ethnic groupings self-conscious, and the Ottoman Empire began to crumble. It became known as "the sick man of Europe" and the only thing holding it together was the European powers' lack of agreement on how to split it up.
As other Christian minorities gained their independence one by one, the Armenians became more isolated as the only major Christian minority. Armenians and Turks began to have conflicting dreams of the future. Some Armenians began to call for independence like the Greeks and others had already received, while some Turks began to envision a new Pan-Turkic empire spreading all the way to Turkic speaking parts of Central Asia. Armenians were the only ethnic group in between these two major pockets of Turkish speakers and the nationalist Turks wanted to get rid of them altogether.
As European powers began to ask for assurances that Armenians receive better treatment, the government began to treat the Armenians worse and worse. From 1894-6 hundreds of thousands of Armenians died in the Hamidian Massacres ordered by Sultan Abdul Hamid II.
A coup by 'progressive' Young Turks in 1908 replacing the Sultans government was supported by Armenians. Unfortunately, promised reforms never came, and in fact a triumvirate of extreme Turkish nationalists took complete dictatorial control, Enver, Jemal and Talat. It was they who masterminded the plan to completely eradicate the Armenian race in a step towards fulfilling their pan-Turkic dreams.
The Genocide

The first genocide of the 20th century

http://www.sowal.com/index.php?title=Image:Geno3.JPG
Never forget it was Hitler who said nobody cared about the armenians and no one will care about the jews
 
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2bfabian

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I'm glad we understand now why if we to let them arabs get away with it they would do every christian and jew in the world that way again. I may disagree with 6th Gin but honestly he is dead on point on this subject.
 

John R

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You know what you say is so true. Bigotry is a horrible thing. I just wish we all honestly understood how true that statement really is.:sosad: having said that what about the Armenians and what they suffered under islamist extremist. it is worth noting that 6th Gen does have valid points on this subject.

i understand exactly how true it is. i made a comment on it's very existance on this board, and i'm the bad guy for calling you out.

SORRY, not. i couldn't with a clear concience let a blatent statement like that pass. if my best friend said something like that, i'd call him on it. it astounds me that people go though life with such a belief system. did you make sure the doctor had a green card?

What about the armenians? i'm sure you and 6thgen have more than enough to discuss on that score.

btw, after hitting the period, please hit the space bar twice. it will make your diatribes less fatiguing to read.
 
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Jdarg

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I think Kurt should start the "Ugh! Argh! STFU!" forum, for threads like this one and quite a few others that come to mind....
 

Bob

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I believe as this board grows in the numbers of users, threads such as this may become more prevalent. It is repellant and entertaining simultaneously. We may become SoWalMart.
 

mf

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I believe as this board grows in the numbers of users, threads such as this may become more prevalent. It is repellant and entertaining simultaneously. We may become SoWalMart.

if only us pesky "outsiders" would disappear.
 

mf

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount



Most Orthodox rabbis, both those belonging to the Religious Zionist and the Haredi Orthodox streams of, have issued prohibitions against entering the Temple Mount because of the danger of entering the area of the Temple courtyard and the difficulty of fulfilling the ritual requirement of cleansing oneself with the ashes of a red heifer (see Numbers 19), and declared it punishable with karet, death by heavenly decree [27].

A Muslim Waqf has managed the Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif continuously since the Muslim reconquest of the Kingdom of Jerusalem. Since taking control of the area in the Six-Day War, Israel has permitted the Waqf to retain internal administration of the site. Under this arrangement Jews and Christians are permitted to visit the site.

not entirely accurate, but interesting.
important to note, most isrealis aren't religious. most religious people don't belong to those sects.
 
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6thGen

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6thGen, Hold on to that anger for 10-15 more years.

Bob, tell you what, next time, to let you know it's a joke, I'll grow a cheezy mustache and bring a watermelon and a sledgehammer.
You have introduced me to a whole new level of douchebaggery.
 
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