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[Bob Wells]

I am sorry but I am not gonna say anyone is guilty of anything without knowing it as truth. Even if 99.99% of the population wants it to be true that does not make it true, I'm not sure I can make that any clearer for you. I never said he declassified whatever he had I said he had the right to do so while he was in office. Yes it does seem logical

Your last paragraph is all your opinion, which you are entitled to

Curious, did you believe OJ Simpson was not guilty?

 

[Lake View Too]

I am sorry but I am not gonna say anyone is guilty of anything without knowing it as truth. Even if 99.99% of the population wants it to be true that does not make it true, I'm not sure I can make that any clearer for you. I never said he declassified whatever he had I said he had the right to do so while he was in office. Yes it does seem logical

Your last paragraph is all your opinion, which you are entitled to

I believe you missed the most important part of my analysis. It doesn't matter if he de-classified the documents or not. It doesn't matter if he had the right to de-classify the documents while he was president*. The salient point is he stole government documents and he cannot show just cause for having them. And it is documented.

 

[Lake View Too]

I am sorry but I am not gonna say anyone is guilty of anything without knowing it as truth. Even if 99.99% of the population wants it to be true that does not make it true, I'm not sure I can make that any clearer for you. I never said he declassified whatever he had I said he had the right to do so while he was in office. Yes it does seem logical

Your last paragraph is all your opinion, which you are entitled to

 

[Leader of the Banned]

I believe you missed the most important part of my alalysis. It doesn't matter if he de-classified the docs or not. It doesn't matter if he had the right to de-classify the docs while he was president*. The salient point is he stole government documents and he cannot show just cause to have them. And it is documented.

Trumpers are all alike. They have 52 different useless arguments, and they try to play them like cards. As soon as they lose one argument, they will jump to another one hoping you will forget that it's already been debunked. It's sad, yet comical.

 

[PoppaJ]

 

[PoppaJ]

I believe you missed the most important part of my analysis. It doesn't matter if he de-classified the documents or not. It doesn't matter if he had the right to de-classify the documents while he was president*. The salient point is he stole government documents and he cannot show just cause for having them. And it is documented.

Yea but…

 

[Lake View Too]

I am sorry but I am not gonna say anyone is guilty of anything without knowing it as truth. Even if 99.99% of the population wants it to be true that does not make it true, I'm not sure I can make that any clearer for you. I never said he declassified whatever he had I said he had the right to do so while he was in office. Yes it does seem logical

Your last paragraph is all your opinion, which you are entitled to

Lou, I think I found your problem in understanding this case. Back in some earlier posts, you stated: " There is nothing that he couldn't have declassified and nothing that he couldn't have taken with him if it was declassified." That seems to be the defect in your thinking. From the illusive, almost mythical, "I can de-classify documents with my mind" theory, then you make the leap to he owns the documents he declassified. This is simply wrong. Do I need to repeat it? Wrong. I hope this clears up your thinking.

As to you wanting and hoping that he evades conviction on these charges, which is evident in nearly every bit of mis-information you post (see "pre-dawn, televised raid" and "political stunt") that's where I infer that you condone espionage.

 

[Lou Deman]

What “other side” is there except the one that refuses to show up.
That does not negate the evidence and facts presented. If trump and the republicans truly had a viable argument they would present it.
The only group stupid enough to buy your statement are other deniers.
Not presenting a defense does not prove innocence. It just shows you have no defense.

Alright lets do it, deniers of what? Evidence of what? what facts?
Some times the best thing to do is nothing
Just let the left put on its dig and pony show, blow each other, and fizzle out
The left keeps trying to keep this alive because they have no accomplishments to stand behind
What do you want to go over about the most violent and deadliest insurrection is our nations capital where 1 lone protestor died and no one was charged with insurrection?

 

[Lou Deman]

I want to thank Lou for pushing me to refrain from emotional response, and to employ determined logic to understanding this case. I really love logic. I think I have a really good grasp of this case now.

So what statute should we be looking at?

 

[Lou Deman]

Lou, I think I found your problem in understanding this case. Back in some earlier posts, you stated: " There is nothing that he couldn't have declassified and nothing that he couldn't have taken with him if it was declassified." That seems to be the defect in your thinking. From the illusive, almost mythical, "I can de-classify documents with my mind" theory, then you make the leap to he owns the documents he declassified. This is simply wrong. Do I need to repeat it? Wrong. I hope this clears up your thinking.

As to you wanting and hoping that he evades conviction on these charges, which is evident in nearly every bit of mis-information you post (see "pre-dawn, televised raid" and "political stunt") that's where I infer that you condone espionage.

To your first comment, the president of the United States can declassify ANYTHING they want, they have the right to do this 100%. Can we agree on this LAW?

He also 100% has the right to take declassified info home to work on. Can we agree on this LAW?

I am simply stating the law because it is the law. I never said he declassified the info because it seems like they still don't know if he did. I do not know the process for declassifying info and the stuff I have read on it varies by source.

Never once did I say he 'owns' the documents because I do not think he owns the documents on any level.

You can repeat the stuff you make up all you want but I am on firm ground here, everything I said is law is in fact law, I will source it if you want

My thinking has not changed on this yet but if the law reads something I haven't seen yet I will change my stance but remember my stance for everyone in the country is that if they break the law the should be held to account, I do not see that stance changing

SO notice you keep bringing up the 'pre dawn raid' that I admitted to getting wrong. The footage I saw of cars with lights on were at dusk not dawn. I would like to admit again in all caps, for the record. I WAS WRONG ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME FOR THE RAID ON MAR LAGO. Please let me know if you need me to write it again, I will admit when I am wrong.

The raid was 100% a political stunt just as all the other stunts, this could have been handled 100's or 1000's of different ways yet they chose this way. Can you agree with this or was a men with guns raid the only way to do this?

To say I 'condone espionage' is coo coo talk