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br549

Beach Comber
Apr 2, 2008
21
9
It would seem that if an officer was willing to leave then they have nothing to loose by voicing their opinion out loud. The only problem with that is that most of the officers have families and children to think about. If their family is dependant on that officers monthly income(which most are) then they are left to suck it up and deal with the issues. Law Enforcement jobs are not always easy to come by and picking ones family up and moving is not always a viable answer, so once again they deal with the mistreatment.....

Granted no Sheriff would want or allow an officer that is employeed at his discression to bad mouth him or the department.... But how many times can you kick a dog before he bites you...
 

sandybanks

Beach Fanatic
Mar 15, 2008
264
15
In a nice place
It would seem that if an officer was willing to leave then they have nothing to loose by voicing their opinion out loud. The only problem with that is that most of the officers have families and children to think about. If their family is dependant on that officers monthly income(which most are) then they are left to suck it up and deal with the issues. Law Enforcement jobs are not always easy to come by and picking ones family up and moving is not always a viable answer, so once again they deal with the mistreatment.....

Granted no Sheriff would want or allow an officer that is employeed at his discretion to bad mouth him or the department.... But how many times can you kick a dog before he bites you...


Br, they have political jobs and it makes sense if you think about it. If the deputy is out there doing a bad job it will hurt them also and not just the Sheriff. Their job depends on them doing a good job and making the Sheriff look good.

This is why sometimes the Sheriff must fire a deputy because it not only puts his job on the line but as you said so many other deputies who have families depending on them to keep their job.
 

WileCoyote

Beach Lover
Dec 5, 2007
195
8
Walton County
Well I promise I have not been drinking Kool-Aid tonight and I will try to keep this on a high plane. I will try to refrain from waiving my arms in the air and jumping up and down.

Ralph in simple terms "does not play well with others". I know that he says he is fighting against crime and 'the good 'ole boy" network that he replaced. One must only read the public record of his dealings with the other elected officials in Walton County and other surronding counties. He seems incapable of accepting that he was elected to serve as more than a foot soldier. His position carries with it duties that deal with budgets ( how has that one been pleaseing everyone), human resources ( we are the talk of the area with his stand on "light duty" for female officers), he abandoned the operation of the jail ( I think that move save the taxpayers of Walton County almost a million dollars the first year), he limited the raises to the officers he so strongly supports by limiting their raises to 3% for two years running, caused many of them to have to refile their 1040's due to "mistakes by the software" he purchased, could have given his officers a raise during last year but chose to "hoard the money" and build a "race track", tried to tarnish the names of many officials by saying the whole issue was drive by "politics", the actions of incompetent employees that he hired, blamed his ongoing accounting issues on "the actions of the auditor."

Not once has this man planted his feet firmly on the ground looked the public in the eyes and said "the buck stops here". I carry the ultimate responsibility for my actions and the actions of those around me.

The man has some sort of problem with accountability. He will not accept that he is held accountable to the citizens of Walton County. He hides behind an attorney, PIO officers, and any other body that he can "throw under the bus".

He will have to face a very determined public in the primary. I believe that they will show him the door when he faces "real candidates" not plants, with experience, proven track records of management ability, simple people skills, and budget and fiscal due dilligence ability.

I look forward to placing the "RIP - Ralphie" banner across the extit road that he takes headed to Tennessee.

We need a person "We Are Proud To Call Sheriff" (not cookin' sheriff).

Now I will have some Kool-Aid
 
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br549

Beach Comber
Apr 2, 2008
21
9
The deputies we speak of here are not political, they are employeed to enforce the laws of the state and to protect and serve the citizens of Walton County....its the Sheriff's job to be political, and by not being accessable to the public he is not fulfilling that job... And as long as a deputy is doing his sworn duties, he or she should not be ridiculed just because they dont sub come to the sheriff's personal agendas
 

sandybanks

Beach Fanatic
Mar 15, 2008
264
15
In a nice place
Re: Why Michael Atkinson Jr. for Sheriff?

The deputies we speak of here are not political, they are employed to enforce the laws of the state and to protect and serve the citizens of Walton County....its the Sheriff's job to be political, and by not being accessible to the public he is not fulfilling that job... And as long as a deputy is doing his sworn duties, he or she should not be ridiculed just because they don't sub come to the sheriff's personal agendas

Br, I respectfully disagree with you on this issue.

All deputies serve at the pleasure of the Sheriff. Their jobs are all political.

If the Sheriff goes then theoretically the next Sheriff has the right to fire every deputy on the payroll.

If you think about it, it makes perfect sense.

There are a few who hate this Sheriff and would do anything in their power to bring him down, but I am telling you he is not a bad man.

That does not mean that the people who are running against the Sheriff are bad men either, but I feel if they were to be elected, would want their deputies to not speak out either on any issues while they are serving at the Sheriff's pleasure.

You see, they are not just putting the Sheriff's job at risk but their fellow deputies also.
 
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sandybanks

Beach Fanatic
Mar 15, 2008
264
15
In a nice place
Please forgive me but I got to go to bed. I enjoyed an honest heart felt discussion with all of you.

Will probably be away for a while but want everyone to know that I think all of you are a great bunch of people.
 

Here4Good

Beach Fanatic
Jul 10, 2006
1,264
529
Point Washington
Re: Why Michael Atkinson Jr. for Sheriff?

Br, I respectfully disagree with you on this issue.

All deputies serve at the pleasure of the Sheriff. Their jobs are all political.

If the Sheriff goes then theoretically the next Sheriff has the right to fire every deputy on the payroll.

If you think about it, it makes perfect sense.

So this isn't actually a law enforcement organization, it's a jobs program.

Stupid me, I thought that our taxes paid the salaries, that they worked for the good of the county, not one man. I think I know what the problem is now.

Pretty sure most of the deputies would choke if they read what you just wrote.
 

John R

needs to get out more
Dec 31, 2005
6,778
824
Conflictinator
H4G, pay no attention to the troll, if you respond to it, or look it in the eye, you will be giving it far more recognition than it deserves, and it will feed on it for sure. also, don't stray too close to it's cage, as it will attempt to grab you. trolls make nonsensical posts hoping you'll respond. don't get riled up, it has the maturity of a third grader, and behaves accordingly. carry on.
 

ShallowsFuzz

Beach Lover
Dec 26, 2006
172
46
Point Washington
:clap:I understand truly how you feel. Like I said earlier in other replys, I am going to pledge my vote toward Marshal Adkinson this August because he is the most qualified running for sheriff. I have only spoken to Marshal Adkinson twice and each time he was very polite and has always put his employees first before anything else, from equiptment to pay raises. He probaly wouldn't know who I am today or even recognise me face to face, since I've grown a beard but first impressions last forever and I definitely remember him from Sandestin. Walton County is ready for a true leader in the WCSO. Someone they can look up to and be proud to work for.
I have alot of friends through out Walton County from the north end to the south end and the majority of them support Marshal Adkinson and believe he will do an awsome job if elected. Now there are others running for sheriff also who are very polite, but the most qualified in my opinion is Marshal Adkinson. :wave:


How do you remember him from Sandestin?
 
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