Palin

[goofer]

From what I've heard so far, Palin definitely shores up the conservative Christian/evangellical base for McCain. I was listening to CNN earlier today, and the evangelical reps were practically fawning.

As for Hillary supporters, once you take away her gender, Palin is as anti-Hillary as you can get. Pro NRA, anti gay marriage, pro drilling, anti Roe v Wade.

Will be interesting to see where this goes.

McCain was going to get the evangelical vote anyway. Do you think they would vote for Obama ?? 24 hours ago I thought since McCain was basically even in the polls against Obama he would win in a landslide Nov 4, assuming he picked Romney, Ridge or Meg Whitman or an acceptable QUALIFIED #2. Now I think its an Obama landslide. There goes Florida back to the Obama column. South Florida will never go for this ticket !! McCain will lose Pennsylvania and Ohio too. McCain will not pick up the dissatisfied Clinton supporters either. The middle of the road voter like myself will not go for McCain.........I hate to say it but this is the Bush 3 ticket. What a damn shame !!! What was he thinking ? Who advised him ? McCain is totally out of touch.
As an aside, I think todays slide in the market was a reaction to the Palin pick. Be prepared for further weakness in the stock market.

 

[goofer]

Politically, I think she is a brilliant pick.

If he is going after the PUMA vote, though, it may come back to bite him. You have people on the right talking about how no one wants to watch a woman get old in office, making fun of her pantsuits, her conservative business look that is characteristic of women who had to dress that way to break down the door so women my age (and Palin's) could go to work dressed more femininely.

Is a hotter, younger woman over Hillary really going to appeal to those women?

Punzy

Us men may be disgusting but we aren't THAT shallow. There are some pretty ugly women ( as well as men.....witness Henry Waxman, the ugliest man alive ) in elective office. If I want to see hot women I'll go to SCORES in NYC !!

 

[rapunzel]

Punzy

Us men may be disgusting but we aren't THAT shallow. There are some pretty ugly women ( as well as men.....witness Henry Waxman, the ugliest man alive ) in elective office. If I want to see hot women I'll go to SCORES in NYC !!

That's not what I'm saying at all. I throw this out there because a few women were ruled out for Obama for fear of a Puma backlash. I was just thinking that it might be interesting to know what made McCain confident there wouldn't be a backlash. I had been hoping for Sebelius, but the argument was that compared to Hillary, she would seem like a pander because she didn't have Hillary's experience and wonkiness.

 

[jensieblue]

Palin quotes from Hillary's

What do you think it means that Palin made direct quotes from Hillary Clinton's campaign speeches when she was presented as MCain's choice for VP?

 

[DemoLady]

With so many experienced women. . . ? Why?

Being of an age when the Equal Rights Amendment was an issue, this pick reminds me of the "token woman" syndrome so prevalent in the 60's and 70's. Why didn't McCain pick a woman with a credible resume, with national political experience, who could actually be compared to competent women like Hillary or to competent men like Joe Biden? In my opinion, in his mind -- a token conservative woman was all he needed. That does all women a disservice.

Karen Thurmond, Florida Demo Chair, just released a statement saying, "She's no Hillary Clinton. She's Dan Quayle in a dress." Read all of it at www.waltondemocrats.org

 

[goofer]

That's not what I'm saying at all. I throw this out there because a few women were ruled out for Obama for fear of a Puma backlash. I was just thinking that it might be interesting to know what made McCain confident there wouldn't be a backlash. I had been hopping for Sebelius, but the argument was that compared to Hillary, she would seem like a pander because she didn't have Hillary's experience and wonkiness.

I am sorry I misunderstood. Whats a PUMA. I have a pizza hangover today.

 

[TooFarTampa]

I am sorry I misunderstood. Whats a PUMA. I have a pizza hangover today.

From what I gather, Hillary voters. PUMA = Party Unity My A**. Those cougars have a sense of humor.

 

[Miss Critter]

McCain was going to get the evangelical vote anyway. Do you think they would vote for Obama ??

Of course not. I thought they might stay home, or cast their vote for some obscure candidate to "make a statement." Now they don't have to.

 

[ckhagen]

Being of an age when the Equal Rights Amendment was an issue, this pick reminds me of the "token woman" syndrome so prevalent in the 60's and 70's. Why didn't McCain pick a woman with a credible resume, with national political experience, who could actually be compared to competent women like Hillary or to competent men like Joe Biden? In my opinion, in his mind -- a token conservative woman was all he needed. That does all women a disservice.

Karen Thurmond, Florida Demo Chair, just released a statement saying, "She's no Hillary Clinton. She's Dan Quayle in a dress." Read all of it at www.waltondemocrats.org

There are a lot of politically aware women in this country who respected Sarah Palin for her accomplishments and tenacity long before this was even a blip on the spectrum of possibilities. She's definitely no token woman. She climbed the ladder with the support of her constituents. Her husband doesn't even have any coattails to hang on to.

 

[GoodWitch58]

I just read that she is a Pat Buchanan fan. I am working on confirming the source, but, eeeeuuuuuwwwww!

Oh yes, she was one of the Pitchfork gang (google it)...she also vetoed a bill so that the Polar bears come off the endangered list..she is tied in with big oil -- she is anti choice; says she would Outlaw abortion even in the case of rape or incest; said she had not really focused on the Iraq war--in spite of the fact that one of her sons is being deployed:--as the Mom of a son who deployed many times--I find this last fact unbelieveable!

Yeah, I guess the Hillary supporters will vote for this woman...

I am with Goofer: McCain was doing pretty well; he was going to get the far right, conservative vote anyway...what does this bring to him? If it is just to try and get women voters, then I agree is smacks of "tokenism".