Schism in the Democratic Congress over the Second Amendment

[traderx]

The best deterent to crime, when you are'nt luck enough to have nosy neighbors or a low crime rate, is actually dogs.

Twelve years as a law enforcment officer and I've worked one burglary out of thousands where a dog was allowed to roam freely inside the house. ONE!

Just my opinion though. Not the opinion of any official law enforcement agency.

I believe that. For those that do not have a dog especially a big dog, you can get a gadget that connects to a motion detector and a speaker or speakers and if anyone gets close to the house, the electronic dog starts barking. I guess if you had a subwoofer in the circuit, you could have one of those loud, deep barks, you know the kind that hurts your chest? That would scare me off. :shock:

 

[scooterbug44]

I have also heard of using a fake dog dish/other evidence of a large dog in plain sight.

My childhood buddy's method was to stand on his hind legs so that he could look visitors in the eye while he was barking, showing his teeth, and spraying saliva on the glass. Mama Scooterbug hated the mess, but Papa Scooterbug thought it was a damn good deterrant!

 

[traderx]

508 Chicago students killed in 16 months.

This is an amazing and depressing statistic. Yet this has happened even though Chicago has had strict gun control laws for three decades.

508 Chicago School Students Shot In 16 Months - cbs2chicago.com

 

[Matt J]

This is an amazing and depressing statistic. Yet this has happened even though Chicago has had strict gun control laws for three decades.

508 Chicago School Students Shot In 16 Months - cbs2chicago.com

So those laws should be relaxed or removed to lower the death rate? I don't follow that logic at all.

 

[traderx]

So those laws should be relaxed or removed to lower the death rate? I don't follow that logic at all.

Let's just say that an enumerated right in the Constitution should be honored.

 

[Lynnie]

Three decades? Seems we only experienced that around here in the last decade - like the incident in Littleton CO started a wave of guns in school. But, not many murders here.

I have a big dog, fat cat and an alarm system. The beauty in this hood is we use real police as our patrol, so if there is ever an incident, the officer patroling gets the call first and is on the scene in record time. Whew!

 

[Matt J]

Let's just say that an enumerated right in the Constitution should be honored.

I still disagree, there's no age limit on that Amendment either, but we still restrict the age of gun buyers. Are you saying someone should take that to the Supreme Court?

 

[traderx]

Three decades? Seems we only experienced that around here in the last decade - like the incident in Littleton CO started a wave of guns in school. But, not many murders here.

I have a big dog, fat cat and an alarm system. The beauty in this hood is we use real police as our patrol, so if there is ever an incident, the officer patroling gets the call first and is on the scene in record time. Whew!

A friend of a friend lives in Alabama. He awoke in the middle of the night and thought he heard someone in his house. He grabbed his 12 gauge and went to the kitchen. There stood the intruder eating from the refrigerator. He was ordered to freeze, or words to that effect, whereupon the intruder threw the boom box he had stolen at my friend of a friend and charged him.

Now, let's say you did not own a firearm and a huge guy charges you in your own home, mind you in the middle of the night. I have the utmost respect for law enforcement but realistically, how can a police officer help you in that situation?

 

[scooterbug44]

So we should all be armed because a burglar too stupid to see if anyone was home broke into the home of someone too stupid to properly lock up their house or dial 9-1-1 in an emergency?

I can certainly think of a better way to handle the situation than prancing into the kitchen w/ a gun and getting a boombox thrown at me, but I was also taught to deal with these situations by law enforcement not Elmer Fudd or the NRA.

Yes, a call to 9-1-1 does not make the po-po magically and instantaneously appear, but since the guy was grazing in the fridge I think he would have come out ahead on the response time issue. Was he worried that he would run out of food to distract the burglar while he waited to have the cops confront the criminal?

 

[traderx]

I do not advocate that everyone should be armed only that you have the right. House was locked btw. Curious as to how it turned out? F of F unloaded into the intruder's chest killing him. Thorough investigation by police and he was cleared on grounds of self-defense. I guess you would want him indicted for murder?