Arizona law doesn't go "far enough" for Florida.

[beachmouse]

I just got a passport card because it was only a $15 add-on when I was getting a full passport anyways. It's probably similar to the proposed electronic is in terms of technology, and State Department is very explicit about how you should always have it in its special sleeve or anyone with an RFID reader can easily scan the electronic data encoded on it.

Which is semi-disturbing because who knows would be scaning you, and if they were organized it would be so easy to set it up to pull data from the card and then use the info to arrange burglaries or something. At least with the passport card, you don't have a home address listed, unlike with a driver's license.

 

[LuciferSam]

Schumer's idea is not like a drivers license; it would be an electronic national I.D. card with a bunch of information on it that everyone would be required to carry. I have known illegal immigrants in the past who have gotten drivers licenses, so it can't be that difficult.

If you do it with drivers license then the person would have to be driving in order to ask them for it; with this card any time you commit a crime doing anything the cop will first ask you for your I.D. card.

A second good part of this is that it could have medical history on it so if you were in a car crash and the hospital couldn't get your medical history they could just scan this card so that they would know how to treat you.

You can't require anybody to carry an ID.

 

[Will B]

Who's ready for Florida to join Arizona as the laughing-stock of the country?

The biggest problem with this is that there were a boat load more people for what AZ did than against it.

 

[hkem1]

You can't require anybody to carry an ID.

Anyone who plans to get a job will have to carry the ID.

 

[LuciferSam]

Anyone who plans to get a job will have to carry the ID.

You are still not required to have ID on your person when out in public.

 

[hkem1]

The biggest problem with this is that there were a boat load more people for what AZ did than against it.

Of course that is true, and I am amongst the ones who support what AZ did. But even though most people support it, they have become the laughing-stock of the country.

Here is the poll.

?a whopping 64 percent support the law,? Todd marveled, ?and we read them the law verbatim exactly as it's been written? and still, he repeated, ?64 percent approve of it.

Read more: NBC Astonished Poll Finds Most Support Arizona Law and Anti-Terror Profiling; Skip GOP Surge | NewsBusters.org

 

[scooterbug44]

Anyone who plans to get a job will have to carry the ID.

Why?

How about we just step up enforcement/persecution of employers who hire illegals instead of requiring EVERYONE to carry ID all the time.

I don't carry ID at all times and I have no desire to start.

 

[Will B]

Of course that is true, and I am amongst the ones who support what AZ did. But even though most people support it, they have become the laughing-stock of the country.

Here is the poll.

I don't think that makes them a laughing stock. I think that most think that they were great for having the cahones to actually go through with it. Even though the teeth got pulled out of the law by a Clinton appointed Judge I still think that they were admired for what they tried to do.

and there's no period at the end of the sentence, yet. This still has a ways to go!

 

[hkem1]

Why?

How about we just step up enforcement/persecution of employers who hire illegals instead of requiring EVERYONE to carry ID all the time.

I don't carry ID at all times and I have no desire to start.

Because currently, in many cases, it is difficult to prove that the employer knew the person was in this country illegally. But if we had an I.D. card that the employer was required to scan, that is more difficult to fake than the current social security card, the employers would have no excuse.

 

[scooterbug44]

Every job I have ever had, Day 1 (or before) I had to provide my social security number/card and a valid government issued photo ID.

Since those jobs included short term agricultural labor (machete and leg guard provided) I don't feel this is an unnecessary burden or rocket science.

It's 2010 - an employer should be able to enter a SSN and a name/ID form into a website in less than 5 minutes, print a confirmation, and place the burden on the government/Homeland Security/INS/IRS to find out if someone is using fake ID.

Of course that would mean the EMPLOYER would then have to pay the proper taxes - the REAL reason IMO many don't try too hard. ;-)