Arizona law doesn't go "far enough" for Florida.

[AndrewG]

5% of all newborns in the US were to Illegals. I think we have a major problem. Enforcement is a bandaid. We need to fix the method and the motivation which is sealing our borders and cracking down on employers.

 

[scooterbug44]

I believe that stat includes babies born where 1 or more parents are illegal.

So a US citizen could give birth or father a child and it would be included in that statistic.

Do you have a source?

P.S. IMO 5% being born to an illegal parent pales next to the fact that almost 40% of US babies are being born to unwed mothers - bad news for our country on social, economic, and education levels.

 

[Bob]

if these folks were canadians, no one would bat an eye.

 

[hkem1]

if these folks were canadians, no one would bat an eye.

Well, 56% of illegal immigrants are from Mexico and an additional 22% are from other Latin American countries. 13% more are from Asia.

Only 6% are from Canada and Europe combined.

Where these people are from is truly irrelevant. The problem is that they are here and some are a threat to national security and everyday life.

Of course, not all terrorist and bad people are illegal, and I would venture to say that the vast majority of illegals are good hard-working people, but we need to stop looking at this as a race issue, and realize that it is truly an issue of national security, hopefully before it's too late.

 

[sunspotbaby]

Part of why the Arizona law was so stupid was that they ALREADY check the immigration status of anyone who is booked.

The first thing an officer asks you for in any traffic stop or accident is your driver's license - which is a government issued ID card valid for interstate travel.

And if you are an immigrant (non-citizen) over the age of 18 you are already required to have your papers on you at all times.

Yep, arrest/booking reports I'm pretty sure have a box for:

U.S. citizen? Y/N

At least they did when I was typing them. So that is already being done, it's not a new thing for sure. I like the Sherrif of Maricopa county, Arizona. If every jail were run like his, maybe criminals wouldn't be so complacent about doing time.

 

[hkem1]

Yep, arrest/booking reports I'm pretty sure have a box for:

U.S. citizen? Y/N

At least they did when I was typing them. So that is already being done, it's not a new thing for sure. I like the Sherrif of Maricopa county, Arizona. If every jail were run like his, maybe criminals wouldn't be so complacent about doing time.

Sanctuary cities don't detain illegal immigrants. That is kind of the point of a "Sanctuary city". Having a box to check if the person is a U.S. citizen is useless if the cop is not allowed to do anything about it.

I do think it's odd though that sanctuary cities are allowed to openly defy federal law and get away with it but Arizona tries to enforce federal law and it gets shot down. Any explanations?

On July 31, 2008, 14-year-old Ivan Miranda was murdered and nearly decapitated in a sword attack in San Francisco's Excelsior neighborhood. Authorities arrested Rony Aguilera, known as "Guerrillero," in the attack and believe Aguilera is an illegal immigrant from Honduras. Aguilera had been arrested in 2007 in an assault case, but was never reported to federal immigration officials due to San Francisco's sanctuary policy.

Sorry Ivan Miranda, you probably didn't have to die, but because liberals in San Francisco think they are so great for not reporting or detaining illegal immigrants, you did.

 

[scooterbug44]

Is it that sanctuary cities are openly defying federal law OR that they have decided to use their limited manpower and funds for more important things than checking immigration status?

Frankly, I think there should be no such thing and every person arrested should have their status checked, but since I don't have billions of dollars to pay for that and budgets are tight, I'll let them prioritize.

 

[hkem1]

Is it that sanctuary cities are openly defying federal law OR that they have decided to use their limited manpower and funds for more important things than checking immigration status?

Frankly, I think there should be no such thing and every person arrested should have their status checked, but since I don't have billions of dollars to pay for that and budgets are tight, I'll let them prioritize.

On February 3, 2009 Francis Hernandez, an illegal immigrant, plowed into a Baskin-Robbins ice cream shop in Denver, Colorado leaving three people dead and two injured. Hernandez had been arrested numerous times before but was never reported to federal immigration authorities due to Denver's sanctuary city policy

I think they do check the immigration status. They just don't report it. The worst thing is that they don't prosecute it because the person is illegal.

In July 2008, a young woman was robbed and violently injured in San Francisco's wealthy Pacific Heights neighborhood by an illegal immigrant named Alexander Izaguirre. Before the incident, Izaguirre had pleaded guilty to selling cocaine in the city's Tenderloin neighborhood and was involved in previous purse-snatching crimes, but avoided jail due to his enrollment in a program called Back on Track, which is run by District Attorney Kamala Harris and provided training for jobs that Izaguirre could not legally hold.

So this Illegal immigrant avoided jail time, then was in a program to give him a job that he couldn't legally hold that was funded by tax payer dollars. Then proceeded commit the crimes again. What a surprise:shock:.

These Sanctuary cities are not just turning a blind eye towards illegal immigration in order to save money. They are proactively helping Illegals stay in this country at the peril of their own citizens.

 

[scooterbug44]

My guess is that in most of those "sanctuary" cities the cops have more than enough to do, a large immigrant population, and a long list of more serious crimes they want to solve ........... and so they are focusing on those instead of immigration status.

I know in border states the statistics are very different and violent/serious crimes by illegals are a bigger problem, but I see no problem with prioritizing due to limited resources.

 

[Bob]

Well, 56% of illegal immigrants are from Mexico and an additional 22% are from other Latin American countries. 13% more are from Asia.

Only 6% are from Canada and Europe combined.

Where these people are from is truly irrelevant. The problem is that they are here and some are a threat to national security and everyday life.

Of course, not all terrorist and bad people are illegal, and I would venture to say that the vast majority of illegals are good hard-working people, but we need to stop looking at this as a race issue, and realize that it is truly an issue of national security, hopefully before it's too late.

too late for what? your local atm says press 1 for english? this issue is totally intertwined as a war of cultures. it's white fright. it's the amigo bumrush. it's like, god forbid, having a black president.