Don't take my word for it

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  1. Misty

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    Again, I have not accused him of any crimes. Has he made campaign contributions? Assuredly he has.
     
  2. Dawn

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    I didn't say you did. But you are derogatory. You can't talk bad about people on here who are private citizens. Seen people banned for that before.
     
  3. Misty

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    I don't deny that.
     
  4. John G

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    Let's try this again. Both Misty and Patriot G seem to understand, maybe a few more.

    Prior to convening the Grand Jury (GJ), many, many people were interviewed, some came voluntarily, or some got pieces of paper.

    From all those interviews a lot of information was collected. This information was / is in the possession of the State Attorney.

    After all the people were interviewed and there was a lot of information, the State sifted through it and put together their case, which was to be presented to the Grand Jury.

    Those interviews that were selected are then the people that actually received a subpoena to actually Testify before the GJ., Which they did. I bet people on this site know people that were interviewed, yet never called to actually Testify.

    They Cherry picked what they wanted in order to " make" their case. They filtered information to tailor Their agenda. Remember B. Chapman's quote; "a Grand Jury can indict a monkey".

    Now GJ is over. The State did release a significant amount of information subject to public record, but NOT all.

    All those original interviews that were not used still remain tucked away, with some people not wanting that info to ever have sunlight shine on it.

    It's now public record.

    It tells a much different story.

    There's room for about a dozen more GJ's based on those interviews. But they don't want to do that.... it was just convenient enough they was this on ended up.

    Since the State Attorney and Sheriff can decide which cases to pursue, the info from the other interviews won't be used.

    Now with Laird's and Blackhead's cases, some of that may be easier to obtain for public consumption (or maybe not).

    The Grand Jury Process was a joke.
     
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  5. drinkin & lazy

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    Good point, CM quit paying on a vacant lot in Seagrove and has recently completed a Deed in Lieu of foreclosure of it since she didn't pay the note. She can however put $35K in of her own money for her campaign. She can't manage her $ well enough to pay her debts. Check out the court records if you want to look it up.
     
  6. Misty

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    How Cindy Meadows manages her money is really no concern to me. My concern is/was who the best candidate for County Commissioner will be in Dist 5 and I continue to believe she is. But since you want to put Cindy's finances on blast...Anderson has done a pretty bang up job with his own and doesn't own a lick of property in Walton County.
     
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    If that is an issue for you, then I can only guess you won't be voting for Mr Trump.
     
  8. lazin&drinkin

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    The position Cindy Meadows has held and for which she seeks re-election entails how she manages the affairs of our county. Her record in office inspires confidence that she not only knows how to do that job well and honestly, but also that she can be depended on to do so in the future. She is by far better qualified and more experienced than Mr. Anderson, and she has the educational, professional, and political experience we need.

    Her decisions about managing her own money and investments are purely personal matters so long as they do not negatively impinge her performance of the duties and discharge of the responsibilities of the pubic office we have entrusted her. If she made an investment of her own money in a market that was peaking, she joins a long list of people across the country who got shafted by the hucksters running the show at the national level. I care about her managing my tax dollars and yours. To date, she's earned my vote to continue doing so. Of the incumbents, she stands alone in that regard.

    While I from time to time have my differences with Cindy's decisions, I believe that on balance she is not only head and shoulders the best of our BCC but also the kind of intelligent, competent, honest and qualified individual we need heading up our local government. If you examine the list of her contributors, you will not see evidence of any organized interest group. You will instead see a panoply of individuals, not businesses by and large, people whose common self-interest is good government beholden to all, not to the local powers that be.

    Cindy has earned my respect and my vote, and I look forward to marking my ballot for her, Bill Fletcher and Melanie Nipper so that Walton County can move away from the politics as usual that has inflicted itself upon so many of its victims. Our citizens need to be beneficiaries, not victims, of the conduct of local government. Smear campaigns by the self-interested to the contrary (Grand Jury report as exhibit A), Cindy has comported herself with honor. Would that all local politicians were like her!
     
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  9. Indestructible

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    I do not think a candidate's personal finances should be an issue in the election either.

    This is why I find it particularly offensive that for months, supporters of Commissioner Meadows have said here and in other places, that Mr. Anderson was somehow negligent in his personal finances or business finances...all of which he has addressed and thoroughly refuted...even though he should not have had to.

    Just because it was posted online and passed around in print at meetings does not make it immune from being described as a coordinated negative attack on Mr. Anderson's personal life, all without a single fact to back it up.

    Meanwhile, Meadows doesn't respond to criticisms......ever...even in regards to her official actions. It's a double standard.

    I will be voting for Tony Anderson because he has the leadership skills and personality to bring different people together and get things done quickly....not more studies and discussion...but shovels in the ground action.

    I believe he is running for the right reasons, has given back to his community...and wants what is best for our county. He has put a lot of thought into his platform and ideas to win the confidence of the people who will be voting.

    He will provide a voice for everyone in the county, not just the people who have the time to show up at every single meeting and get their way by threats of lawsuits and harassment.

    I think he is a good, smart guy who will let county employees and law enforcement do their jobs. And I think he is our safest bet to actually pass customary use and not cave to the demands of the angry group of privatizers.
     
  10. Misty

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    Just so you know (you can believe what you choose) but T. Anderson's' financial difficulties were not addressed and the liens withstanding against him were not paid off until after he became a candidate.

    Try as I might I haven't seen any leadership skills and I don't believe for a second he wants whats best for the County but he assuredly wants whats best for the SBA who has a whole nother agenda completely. Again, believe what you will, you're going too anyway.

    If your reference to the lawsuits and "alleged" harassment are in regard to Suzanne Harris or Alan Osborn (they are generally at most meetings and have made no secret of their disdain for certain BCC members and rightly so) let me ask you this...

    Do you honestly believe the County should operate OUT of the Sunshine and against the LDC and Comp plans?

    Read the question carefully so there is no misunderstanding before you answer.
     
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    There were no liens against Mr. Anderson to be paid off...this is completely untrue.
     
  12. Misty

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    They were posted publicly. Might wanna check your facts on that one.

    You didn't answer my question either.
     
  13. Patriot Games

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    He doesn't have a job and needs one. Doesn't own a home and he is 60, no skin in the game. Could you serve on a bank board with no assets? highly doubtful. what leadership positions did he hold in a 30 year career? None. How is that not relevant? Why was he so disappointed in government as he says but never voiced it at any meeting until he ran? I have heard him speak, he didn't write his platform himself any more than the man in the moon.
     
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    Where?
     
  15. Indestructible

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    This is just angry name calling again...and speculation....and being mean.
     
  16. Misty

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    Really?

    Do you actually read posts or do you just fire off statements/comments that give you the warm fuzzies?
     
  17. Indestructible

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    No I serious where did you post this?
     
  18. Misty

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    Seriously Indestructible...you really need to take a moment, breath and read each post! PG made statements, Accurate statements to be more precise and he didn't call anyone any names and none of what he said was speculation!
     
  19. Patriot Games

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    No it's not. If he goes in we essentially have 5 defuniak people on the board. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Nothing angry about that post just the truth. He is slinging just as much mud through his Tallahassee connections, that's clear to see. Funny we got the negative fliers after he condemned mud slinging. He is a puppet no question about it.
     
  20. Indestructible

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    I just looked back at the posts with the word "lien." Someone said he had a car lien. He doesn't. He has a car loan...it was on the financial disclosure Bob Hudson posted a while ago on Visions...it's not paid off because it's a car installment loan for a car he has. There is no "lien."
     

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