Bob, it is my understanding that a “red herring” is a statement meant as diversion from an article of significance at least that is the way I understand it, but what do I know I’m just a fireman. I think what Diane is saying is that the WCTA cannot fix or try to fix things it does not know exist. She was speaking as a former government employee about her personal experiences. I don’t think anyone of us is on here attacking you or this organization. I have tried to offer you whatever information you need. I have offered you the tapes of the recorded sessions when you were not able to make it, and I know you have other things to do so you had to leave early yesterday and I wasn’t sure if you were able to get a copy of the proposal the firefighters gave to management and I am offering it to you or anyone of the WCTA who requests it. I know the WCTA tries to get as much information as possible and that is fine. I want them to have the most accurate information. Mrs. Mcquistin asked me if we were adversaries and I find that to be an interesting question. Many people think that because we are a union we are out to take advantage of the taxpayers. I find that not only to be untrue, but offensive. We spend our entire careers protecting people and we find it frustrating that people think we are enemies because of our participation in a union. Using that logic you guys would be bad guys since the WCTA is a union. At the root of it the Tea Party is a union. They are a group of like minded individuals joined together to attain a common goal. That is exactly what our union does. Our union also does many other things in this community to help out and you don’t hear us running to the newspaper every time looking for credit (just ask Diane about how we help with the angle tree event every year). We are a civic minded group of guys. You guys spend countless hours going over information; in addition to going over as much info as we can we spend a lot of time trying to help those who can’t help themselves both at work and when we are out there collecting for MDA or around the holiday time. Bob, you stated earlier that you wanted to give your point of view or to offer up possible solutions well here we are I am reading every day and I will listen to what you have to say.