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Making the Case for Hiring a Superintendent

Jdarg avatar
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The opposition to the superintendent referendum has come out with some pretty interesting arguments against hiring a superintendent instead of the old fashioned and ineffective practice of electing one. In fact, they are doing a fabulous job of making our case for us! The parents, citizens, and teachers supporting the referendum are a nonpartisan group of people who saw a way to start the process of helping our school system evolve and improve, and an important step in that process is changing the way the system runs. If you were involved at all this year, you know that the current system was a total disaster when it came to the teacher salary negotiation, a situation that should be an embarrassment to every Walton County citizen. Also, those of us with children in school know that FCAT test scores, which determine school ratings, mean absolutely nothing when, as parents, we measure what our kids' educational experience could be with the right leadership. Our teachers are amazing now, despite zero support from their administration.

I also had to giggle at the RINO comments. The many Republicans working to support this referendum are a bit surprised to find out they are RINOS.:roll: And do we really want a "conservative" superintendent? What does that even mean? With this kind of thinking, our kids are certainly doomed!

So anyway, here is a letter that was published in the Northwest Florida Daily News. it speaks for itself, I think, and totally makes our point of putting Kids Before Politics. Clearly the author of this letter is missing the point!:blink:

LETTER: A cunning ruse

Published: Friday, July 25, 2014 at 18:03 PM.


We’re all aware of political manipulation of Republicans by liberals at the national level. Sadly, some conservatives and misguided RINOS are being outfoxed locally.
Here’s how. The Walton County school district currently enjoys an A ranking in student achievement. Yet there is a significant move underway to change the system.
Why change anything? Particularly, why change the method of selecting our superintendent?
Are liberals and RINOS behind this scheme? Are they attempting an end run around our voting process?
Again, why would they? From a liberal perspective, the reason is clear. In our conservative district, an election will invariably produce a conservative superintendent with a conservative educational philosophy. Thank heaven!
On the other hand, appointment by School Board will open the door to a progressive superintendent and a progressive education philosophy. School Board members are not required to declare party affiliation when running.
The superintendent election process clearly requires an open declaration of political, hence educational, philosophy. This eliminates liberal candidates — as it should, the will of the people.
In the election process a candidate must declare party, hence political philosophy. In this district, a progressive’s chances are quite slim.
This cannot be overemphasized: Changing to selection by School Board significantly increases the chances of a liberal being named superintendent.
Conservatives, open your eyes to this cunning ruse! Look around at the liberal bastions of education, where more money equals lower student achievement. We don’t need that type of change here.
Wake up! It’s your child. Exercise your choice in his or her education. Vote NO to an appointed superintendent.
— RICK McQUISTON
Santa Rosa Beach

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Beach Fanatic
#127
Notice that Barnhill didn't bother to explain why
30A Skunkape avatar
Skunky
#128
I certainly don't agree with whatever that rant was, but I do think our school system needs a great deal of improvement and that college prep is not the standard to use. We should be realistic about kid's educational and vocational futures and make sure every student in our school system gets a great education that prepares them for a variety of life paths.

A four year college is not the norm for many kids. Only 85% of Walton residents over 25 have a high school diploma or higher and only 24% have a bachelor degree or higher.

Taking politicians out of schools seems like one of many common sense changes that need to be made to improve our local education system.

Zebraspots, I agree that college is not the right choice for all students graduating high school. With that said, I believe that at a minimum, a school district should be able to raise the bar high enough to ensure that ANY student that matriculates through their system has the option to be go to college should they choose to do so, and to be READY to go.

While I hate to compare peanuts to oranges, I will point out that our neighbor to the north, Covington County, Alabama has not one but TWO high schools recognized by US News as being among the best in their state and above average when compared to the nation as a whole. We have none. Why do WE have to settle?!
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#129
Could someone please tell me what vocational subjects are taught in Walton County high schools? While I cetainly agree the overall academic regimen should be directed toward preparation for college, some students want to learn vocational skills as well. When I attended high school back in the '40s, we had carpentry, auto repair and welding available. What have we here?
Misty avatar
Banned
#130
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Sorry Darrell you just lost 2 votes

So the stooge for Cecilia Jones gets your vote eh?

So much for taking "politics" out of education!
Jdarg avatar
SoWal ExpertAuthor
#131
So the stooge for Cecilia Jones gets your vote eh? So much for taking "politics" out of education!

Got any other bright ideas or solutions?

We're all ears.
Misty avatar
Banned
#132
Got any other bright ideas or solutions?

We're all ears.


jdarg,

The fact is this is politically motivated and you and the WCTA are leading the charge.

If the majority of candidates (particularly the ones "born and raised here") were as honest as Barnhill has been, ya'll wouldn't have anyone to vote for. Just sayin...
John G avatar
Beach Fanatic
#133
So the stooge for Cecilia Jones gets your vote eh?

So much for taking "politics" out of education!

Not happy about the "stooge" either, but the Referendum is more important in my book. Our family will be voting yes.

As for Barnhill, lost more votes here too...
Bob Hudson avatar
Beach Fanatic
#134
jdarg, The fact is this is politically motivated and you and the WCTA are leading the charge. If the majority of candidates (particularly the ones "born and raised here") were as honest as Barnhill has been, ya'll wouldn't have anyone to vote for. Just sayin...

Your response was directed at Jdarg but you listed the WCTA as well.

The WCTA asked that this question be posed to the voters of Walton County. It is an option that is in the State Constitution and the only way people have to express their view is in a referendum requested by the public.

No candidate to support for "political reasons" only a choice that the voters will make.

We worked to give you and all other registered voters the right to choose.

I believe it to be the best method for bringing the best possible person to the position. Your not limited to only Walton County residents but they would not be excluded from being hired if they rose to the top of all who applied.

Please go to the polls to vote as I will. You have obviously determined you don't want to see the change made to a system supported in 99 out of 100 school systems in the United States.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#135
Could someone please tell me what vocational subjects are taught in Walton County high schools? While I cetainly agree the overall academic regimen should be directed toward preparation for college, some students want to learn vocational skills as well. When I attended high school back in the '40s, we had carpentry, auto repair and welding available. What have we here?

I believe students in Walton county have the option to go to the vocational schools in Bay or Okaloosa. I agree that not everyone is going to go to college and that's fine, we still need mechanics, carpenters, hair stylists, etc. These are not demeaning or low class jobs, they are the ones that provide services to even the highest degree seeking individual.
m1a1mg avatar
Beach Fanatic
#136
I believe students in Walton county have the option to go to the vocational schools in Bay or Okaloosa. I agree that not everyone is going to go to college and that's fine, we still need mechanics, carpenters, hair stylists, etc. These are not demeaning or low class jobs, they are the ones that provide services to even the highest degree seeking individual.

I'd give ten lawyers for one good mechanic who could work on our Toyota.
Jdarg avatar
SoWal ExpertAuthor
#137
Info on academic and vo-tech programs at the Walton County high schools. I am sure Walton HS has programs, but I couldn't find specific info on the website.

http://wcd.walton.k12.fl.us/Programs
http://fhs.walton.k12.fl.us/Academics
http://swh.walton.k12.fl.us/Academics

EVERYBODY that graduates high school needs to be able to communicate well and have math skills. Those pursuing a trade need these skills to run their own businesses. ;)
Andy A avatar
Beach Fanatic
#138
Just so all understand, Jdarg, I am not, under any circumstances, saying math and other skills should be replaced with those of a vocational nature. The vocational skills I mentioned at my high school were supplied as additions to the regular curriculm as was JROTC.
sunny850 avatar
Beach Lover
#139
All walton county students have the option of attending classes at the walton career development center in defuniak. (Formerly walton vo-tech). Students can study nursing, hair and nails, mechanics, building construction, horticulture, technology, etc. many students leave high school with a diploma AND certifications in one of these areas. It is a fascinating school to visit and an excellent option for many students. One of our school board members, Sharon Roberts is a past student.
weeniedawg avatar
Banned
#140
It's funny how opinions can change in a few years. Four years ago I was critical of our superintendent and how the school district was being run and I was quite literally run off this very discussion board. Now some are starting to agree with me. The fact remains that hired superintendents are almost always better qualified than elected ones. Where I've lived superintendents were hired from other states and were not connected to political machines.
Misty avatar
Banned
#141
Please go to the polls to vote as I will. You have obviously determined you don't want to see the change made to a system supported in 99 out of 100 school systems in the United States.

Bob, You are absolutely full of stuffing...more so than a Christmas turkey! We are in 101% agreement that change is needed. BUT....

I DO NOT believe that meaningful change is possible if this County continues to support/re-elect current and/or "has been", "wannabe politicians"!!

I DO BELIEVE that if and when the make-up of the board (be it school board or BCC) changes and we are ever able to elect governing boards who believe in "the will of the people" then we might see real and meaningful change. In other words, CHANGE THE MAKE-UP of the board FIRST!!

I would not vote for Barnhill simply because I wasn't impressed with his last tenure as an elected school board member but I am impressed with his honesty this go round. It took some pretty big kahunas to come out and oppose this referendum publicly while others (Danny Glidewell included) hide behind what they think you wanna hear telling you all the politically correct stuff while secretly opposing that which you are fighting so hard for which could possibly create real change.

Let me reiterate again that "a new broom sweeps clean"!! You can not leave the same foxes guarding the hen houses and EXPECT different results!!
Beach Fanatic
#142
I don't know Walton County politics, but I used to work in the legislative arena as a staff person and lobbyist for more than 15 years, so I do know something about politics in general.

This is what I know...

1. I have never met a politician who was not looking to increase his power or sphere of influence.
2. In the case of an appointed superintendent, the politicians on the school board would definitely become more powerful, if only for the power to appoint the superintendent.

What I don't know is...

Why are candidates for the Walton County Board of Education not interested in increasing their power like every other politician? What is in it for them to remain essentially powerless?
Bob Hudson avatar
Beach Fanatic
#143
Early voting begins on Saturday August 16 and continues until August 23rd.

Election Day is August 26th

Absentee ballots have been mailed and can be returned at any time.

Hope everyone will take the time to express their choices on those items available on the ballot.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#144
Why are candidates for the Walton County Board of Education not interested in increasing their power like every other politician? What is in it for them to remain essentially powerless?

Stepping stone, the school board positions don't pay anything. Get your foot in the door and eventually run for superintendent getting about a $70,000/yr raise.
Misty avatar
Banned
#145
Why are candidates for the Walton County Board of Education not interested in increasing their power like every other politician? What is in it for them to remain essentially powerless?

Powerless you say? Does that mean you believe the school system got into the current conundrum exclusively by the current Supers hand?

I think you failed to notice how much power Mark Davis has acquired for himself after all these years in County politics and it now appears, his family members are being fast tracked to do the same.

I like and respect Mark Davis but he is eating out of the same trough the the rest of the politicians in this County do.
Beach Fanatic
#146
Misty,

I think I will regret responding to anything you post. I have noticed your tendency to personally attack anyone who disagrees with you. Whether you choose to hang on the word powerless is your choice. You did not answer the salient question however. It was, why would a politician be opposed to amassing more power? You made my case with Mr Davis. He is in a position to have more power and influence because he has two positions ( county attorney and board member) than if he was only a school board member.
Matt J avatar
SWGB
#147
WaltonParent, with all due respect I've read over Misty's response several times and cannot see the personal attack, rather questions regarding your statement.

Playing the victim card when you're not a victim is lower than personal attacks in my book.
Beach Fanatic
#148
Local, you need to read mine again. I did not say she attacked me personally. I said I have read previous posts in which did did so to others.
Beach Fanatic
#149
Local, I accept your apology. No hard feelings.
Misty avatar
Banned
#150
Local, you need to read mine again. I did not say she attacked me personally. I said I have read previous posts in which did did so to others.

Wow! Some people really have thin skin. No one says a word on this board when a chosen few go on the attack...like Andy A and Bob Hudson with his pictorial images but when someone makes a comment you don't agree with you want to call it a personal attack?

You're not a victim darling.

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Beach Fanatic
#151
Never said I was a victim, Misty. Your acid tongue is dripping again. Exactly the reason why I was reluctant to respond to your post. Your response vindicates my original concern. For the record, I am not your darling.

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