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More negative press on Cam Newton. Report: Cam Newton left Florida after charges of academic cheating - Campus Rivalry: College Football & Basketball News, Recruiting, Game Picks, and More - USATODAY.com

Is it for real, or is it coming from a frustrated Alabama fan or somewhere else? :dunno: Listened to Sirius 122 this afternoon. Lots of opinions.

What I know from being a professor is that, due to FERPA, this info is very confidential. At UF and at other schools with which I'm familiar, honor code infractions are handled by a student committee with at least one faculty representative as a member and under the umbrella of the Dean of Students.

Also athletes sign away their rights of academic privacy to the Athletic Department, even in colleges/universities that don't offer athletic scholarships, like Div. III schools. So there are a lot of people along the way that have access to the info -- the professor, students on the UF Student Conduct Committee, the Athletic Department, the Dean of Students, etc.

Who knows where it leaked if it is true. It is also a matter of public record that Newton had 13 traffic violations in 14 months. In the opinion of many people, all of these various reports show a character flaw in Newton. As many sports network talking-heads have said, USA Today wouldn't print this info if they weren't certain that the cheating accusations are true.

Looks like Auburn might be looking at another undefeated season of no particular significance.:lol:
 

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Is it for real, or is it coming from a frustrated Alabama fan or somewhere else?

I am hearing from AUB sources that it is coming from somewhere else; I haven't heard the allegation of it coming from UA sources, but a writer from one of the AU networks claims sources from the Dan Mullen/MSU camp and I have heard others pointing at Urban Meyer/UF.
 
I am hearing from AUB sources that it is coming from somewhere else; I haven't heard the allegation of it coming from UA sources, but a writer from one of the AU networks claims sources from the Dan Mullen/MSU camp and I have heard others pointing at Urban Meyer/UF.
Urban Meyer appears to be an ethical person who wouldn't do such a thing and isn't the type who would risk his career for violating FERPA. Besides, what's the point because with 3 losses, UF is not in the mix for a national championship, even if the Gators beat South Carolina and go to the SEC Championship. However, it could very well be that someone in the UF athletic program might have a grudge against Auburn and revealed the violations of the UF honor code. As a professor, I have to sign an attendance voucher every week for each athlete, and every two weeks for each athlete I have to sign a form in which I state the current average and can make comments (such as revealing that I have turned in the student for an honor code violation, currently the case for three athletes in one of my classes). The athletes are required to submit these to the athletic department. It's possible that multiple people on the athletic department staff see these forms. Also, everyone on the UF Student Conduct Committee and many people in the Dean of Student's office see honor code violations. I'm not saying that any of these people violated FERPA, but it isn't impossible.
 
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30A Skunkape

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More negative press on Cam Newton. Report: Cam Newton left Florida after charges of academic cheating - Campus Rivalry: College Football & Basketball News, Recruiting, Game Picks, and More - USATODAY.com

Is it for real, or is it coming from a frustrated Alabama fan or somewhere else? :dunno: Listened to Sirius 122 this afternoon. Lots of opinions.

What I know from being a professor is that, due to FERPA, this info is very confidential. At UF and at other schools with which I'm familiar, honor code infractions are handled by a student committee with at least one faculty representative as a member and under the umbrella of the Dean of Students.

Also athletes sign away their rights of academic privacy to the Athletic Department, even in colleges/universities that don't offer athletic scholarships, like Div. III schools. So there are a lot of people along the way that have access to the info -- the professor, students on the UF Student Conduct Committee, the Athletic Department, the Dean of Students, etc.

Who knows where it leaked if it is true. It is also a matter of public record that Newton had 13 traffic violations in 14 months. In the opinion of many people, all of these various reports show a character flaw in Newton. As many sports network talking-heads have said, USA Today wouldn't print this info if they weren't certain that the cheating accusations are true.

Adds to Florida leaked conspiracy: Cam can't play in SEC championship game (a possible outcome), increasing odds Gators win and salvage 2010 season.

Detracts from Florida leaked conspiracy: As I understand it, Cam was being called out for his third cheating incident. It would not reflect well on UF if the university looked the other way on two prior episodes of someone blatantly commiting academic fraud.

By the way, BR, could all the privacy rules be circumvented if a student went public with the allegation? ie, it is alleged Newton stole someone's paper, erased the name and inserted his own in the space and handed it in. Couldn't that student freely go public with that fact?
 
Skunky, if we?re talking about a case as straightforward as what you are referring to and the student who wrote the paper reports it, then I don?t see any legal repercussions at all.

The only way that I see a problem for the person who might have spoken out about Newton putting his name on their paper would be if the allegation was found to be false and the paper was not actually stolen, but purchased; if they were directly or indirectly associated with the athletic program of either school or related to someone associated with the collegiate athletic program; or, the allegation was totally fabricated.

FERPA governs the actions of the institution ? not the actions of students, UNLESS they are working in the capacity as employee (work student, graduate assistant, residence assistance).

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, so no one should interpret this as legal advice.
 
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