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Arkiehawg

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Why the NCAA got it right in the Cameron Newton case | Mr. College Football

Why the NCAA got it right in the Cameron Newton case

6:41 am December 2, 2010, by Tony Barnhart

...There is a big difference between the three cases above (Green, Bush and Dareus) and the Newton case. In those cases there was a finding of FACT that money and extra benefits actually changed hands. Green admitted he received $1,000 for the jersey (whether or not that should be a violation is a different argument). Dareus admitted that somebody paid his way to South Florida. It took a four years but the the NCAA proved, to its satisfaction, that almost $300,000 in benefits went to Bush or his parents.

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remember that a slippery slope can slide both ways. If the NCAA punished School A because a father solicted money from School B (and no money changed hands and school A didn?t even know the solicitation took place), now you have another slippery slope where the possibilities are endless. If I?m a recruiter at school B and lost a recruit to school A, when the head coach starts chewing on my butt I can just put it out there that the parent solicited money from me and get school A in trouble and take the heat off me.

The reinstatement of Cam really means little at the moment except that he is allowed to play in the SECCG. The investigation is far from over and I suspect we will hear a lot more about Scamgate in the next year.....
 

PJJ

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The reinstatement of Cam really means little at the moment except that he is allowed to play in the SECCG. The investigation is far from over and I suspect we will hear a lot more about Scamgate in the next year.....

Maybe in Starkville.

Latest News - NCAA.org

Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president for academic and membership affairs. ?In determining how a violation impacts a student-athlete?s eligibility, we must consider the young person?s responsibility. Based on the information available to the reinstatement staff at this time, we do not have sufficient evidence that Cam Newton or anyone from Auburn was aware of this activity, which led to his reinstatement. From a student-athlete reinstatement perspective, Auburn University met its obligation under NCAA bylaw 14.11.1. Under this threshold, the student-athlete has not participated while ineligible.?

continued in the joint press release

?We are pleased that the NCAA has agreed with our position that Cam Newton has been and continues to be eligible to play football at Auburn University,? Auburn University Director of Athletics Jay Jacobs said. ?We appreciate the diligence and professionalism of the NCAA and its handling of this matter. ?

Me: Auburn hasn't even received an LOI on Cam's recruitment. Therefore it hasn't even moved from an eligibility issue to an infractions case.

Sorry folks. Case closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.
 

Arkiehawg

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With the current evidence you are correct. Stating that, the FBI and NCAA are still investigating the situation.

Who knows what they will discover if anything. But to seriously believe that the barn or Cam's family is completely clear of future findings based on the current NCAA report is naive.
 

PJJ

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With the current evidence you are correct. Stating that, the FBI and NCAA are still investigating the situation.

Who knows what they will discover if anything. But to seriously believe that the barn or Cam's family is completely clear of future findings based on the current NCAA report is naive.

As is this: "The reinstatement of Cam really means little at the moment except that he is allowed to play in the SECCG." Maybe the NCAA just didn't try to find anything, or conduct a thorough investigation. And maybe The Bilderberg Group are big Auburn fans.
 

scooterbug44

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I think this sets a bad precedent - IMO the rules should be expanded/interpreted to include the nuclear family AND it should be an issue regardless of where he ends up.

But the question is - if his dad WAS shopping him around for several hundred dollars to one school, why would he go to Auburn if they truly offered him $0.
 

Arkiehawg

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ding, ding, ding, winner, winner chicken dinner......

Surely the #3 most sanctioned program in the NCAA is completely clean in this issue.....
 

bamabeachbum

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ding, ding, ding, winner, winner chicken dinner......

Surely the #3 most sanctioned program in the NCAA is completely clean in this issue.....

You are so correct, we are clean. Last time our football program was on probation was 1993, I think Arkie and the right reverand has been on probation since then.

Also, our compliance director worked at the NCAA with the enforcement staff, he is with out a doubt, one that see's no gray area, he knows the rules.

Also, everyone thinking that this is the first time a kid was shoped by a person but got to play football, remember Albert Means.

"why would he go to Auburn if he got no money". Could it be we had Sr. team, with one of the best OC in the nation. Looks to me like he made a damn good choice

WAR DAMN EAGLE!
 
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Arkiehawg

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You are so correct, we are clean. Last time our football program was on probation was 1993, I think Arkie and the right reverand has been on probation since then.

Also, our compliance director worked at the NCAA with the enforcement staff, he is with out a doubt, one that see's no gray area, he knows the rules.

Also, everyone thinking that this is the first time a kid was shoped by a person but got to play football, remember Albert Means.

"why would he go to Auburn if he got no money". Could it be we had Sr. team, with one of the best OC in the nation. Looks to me like he made a damn good choice

WAR DAMN EAGLE!

You think wrong. Last football sanction was after Arkansas self reported for booster violation for overpaying players for summer work that occurred in the mid 90's prior to HDN becoming coach. Arkansas isn't even in the top 30 schools sanctioned by the NCAA.

Regarding the Scamgate.....time will tell the final verdict on it....regardless of your rose colored glasses view....the investigation is far from over.....

War Beagle....beat cocks please...;-)
 
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bamabeachbum

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You think wrong. Last football sanction was after Arkansas self reported for booster violation for overpaying players for summer work that occurred in the mid 90's prior to HDN becoming coach. Arkansas isn't even in the top 30 schools sanctioned by the NCAA.

Regarding the Scamgate.....time will tell the final verdict on it....regardless of your rose colored glasses view....the investigation is far from over.....

War Beagle....beat cocks please...;-)


LOL, I was wondering when you FINALLY was going to come around. I know you all want to taste that Sugar.

Arkie is playing some damn fine football right now.
 
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