why?
if they are uncomfortable with discussing personal opinions or beliefs, then I don't blame them. but why else would they be afraid? just curious.
Obama's Speech
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why?
if they are uncomfortable with discussing personal opinions or beliefs, then I don't blame them. but why else would they be afraid? just curious.
ok toots straight up, when someone backs anyone other than Obama they are blasted! You and a couple of others go into a tailspin. And they're mostly talking about another democrat .
The fact is I have quite a bit to say on the subject,but hesitate to because I ddn't enjoy being called a racist,simple minded or worse.
The fact is I have quite a bit to say on the subject,but hesitate to because I ddn't enjoy being called a racist,simple minded or worse.
Personally, I do not see why the big deal. You are going to either be able to vote for McCain/Crist or Clinton/Obama. I imagine the signs have already been printed, we are just sitting around waiting on the paperwork.
I am going to crawl under my desk now.
I am going to crawl under my desk now.
Is Florida that scary?
Buzz isn't sure this will help, what with Florida Democrats dead-set against it and Michigan leaders in knots, but Sen. Hillary Clinton is trying to goad Sen. Barack Obama into agreeing to new Democratic primary elections in the two rogue states. Her campaign turned up the pressure this week and she kept it on at a campaign stop in Terre Haute, Indiana, earlier today.
"I do not understand what Senator Obama is afraid of, but it is going to hurt our party and our chances in November and so I would call on him, once again, to join me in giving the people of Florida and Michigan the chance to be counted as we move forward in this nominating process," Clinton said.
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Buzz isn't sure this will help, what with Florida Democrats dead-set against it and Michigan leaders in knots, but Sen. Hillary Clinton is trying to goad Sen. Barack Obama into agreeing to new Democratic primary elections in the two rogue states. Her campaign turned up the pressure this week and she kept it on at a campaign stop in Terre Haute, Indiana, earlier today.
"I do not understand what Senator Obama is afraid of, but it is going to hurt our party and our chances in November and so I would call on him, once again, to join me in giving the people of Florida and Michigan the chance to be counted as we move forward in this nominating process," Clinton said.
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Ditto for me! Not to mention the fact if some of us are a little off center in our presentation, we might be banned. I have a lot I could say regarding this thread and I well still might say it. I have read every post with great interest but it is obvious to even the most casual observer that cck and cp get hammered for their opinions while rapunzel and tootsie as well as others receive accolades for theirs. The bias is obvious and duly noted by this poster and I, for one, do not care to be denigrated for mine as cck has been so I'll just shut up. Thanks from those of us that agree with you, cck, for taking all the heat. We appreciate the fact that we don't have to do so.
Am I missing something?
All responses on both sides of the issue seemed reasoned and well-said. Going out on a limb here, but for the record, I've voted Republican in the past several presidential elections, and haven't made up my mind in this one. I think McCain is an honorable man, but would be very concerned about vp choice because of his age and past health issues. Let's face it; the job is a little on the demanding side. And Hillary has, fairly or not, a likeability issue in some circles. Obama is largely an unknown, with little experience in many areas that matter.
I respect differing opinions on the candidates, and recognize that emotion plays a big role in selecting a personal favorite. There's just so much at stake in this election that my hope is for emotion to take a backseat and for thoughtful reason to play a major role in choosing our next leader.
All responses on both sides of the issue seemed reasoned and well-said. Going out on a limb here, but for the record, I've voted Republican in the past several presidential elections, and haven't made up my mind in this one. I think McCain is an honorable man, but would be very concerned about vp choice because of his age and past health issues. Let's face it; the job is a little on the demanding side. And Hillary has, fairly or not, a likeability issue in some circles. Obama is largely an unknown, with little experience in many areas that matter.
I respect differing opinions on the candidates, and recognize that emotion plays a big role in selecting a personal favorite. There's just so much at stake in this election that my hope is for emotion to take a backseat and for thoughtful reason to play a major role in choosing our next leader.
It has been incredibly refreshing for me to listen to so many people in various newspapers and different channels applaud Obama for an exceptional speech, regardless of their own political inclinations.
Regardless of one's affliation, it is very hard for me to understand or to see how anyone can disagree with the tenets of his basic arguments. To me he just spoke beautifully and eloquently about some difficult truths.
He acknowledged the reality of black anger, of whites sometimes feeling the pain of affirmative action, and by the fact that many have not felt particularly priviledged by their race, of cringing at the raw honesty of his grandmother's biases, etc, etc... I could go on and on but will not apart from say that I find him unbelievably refreshing, intelligent and inspirational.
Regardless of one's affliation, it is very hard for me to understand or to see how anyone can disagree with the tenets of his basic arguments. To me he just spoke beautifully and eloquently about some difficult truths.
He acknowledged the reality of black anger, of whites sometimes feeling the pain of affirmative action, and by the fact that many have not felt particularly priviledged by their race, of cringing at the raw honesty of his grandmother's biases, etc, etc... I could go on and on but will not apart from say that I find him unbelievably refreshing, intelligent and inspirational.
I do not believe, imho, there is any comparison to the length of time that any religious group suffered persecution, or that any other race in this country has been discriminated against or oppressed longer than African Americans, especially in the name of capitalism. Because the African societies couldn't protect themselves in the 1600's politically and militarily against their peoples being taken into slave trade, the ideology of black inferiority started. This ideology was brought into our society and passed down generation to generation. Even with strides made in the civil rights movement, one only needs to look at the schism between incomes of white families vs. black families still to this day to see that that ideology is still embedded in the subconcious of our culture.
Obama openly and courageously approaches a subject that many would prefer to sweep under the table.
How can we pretend that it doesn't exist, when even between white people in this country there are cultural differences that still exist. We only need to look at the thread regarding the display of a rebel flag on license plates. To me it is offensive, but would I disown my Southern friend who chooses to display it for whatever reason they have? Someone who may have opened their hearts, minds and home to someone in need? someone who might share their last dollars with someone who is hungry?
Since when do stop accepting people for their difference in views and the life experiences that brought them to that point? If one considers themselves to be religious, don't all faiths preach acceptance of others. Since when are pastors, reverends, priests or congregation leaders perfect? They are only men.
Until we approach these subjects without becoming defensive, how can our country become united, fix our our economic mess, and even think of setting an example worldwide.
I want a President who can listen to other world leaders without passing judgement on their cultures and views. I want someone who is going to surround themselves with varying opinions. We've already seen people forced to resign from offices in the current administration who do not conform to their views.
Obama openly and courageously approaches a subject that many would prefer to sweep under the table.
How can we pretend that it doesn't exist, when even between white people in this country there are cultural differences that still exist. We only need to look at the thread regarding the display of a rebel flag on license plates. To me it is offensive, but would I disown my Southern friend who chooses to display it for whatever reason they have? Someone who may have opened their hearts, minds and home to someone in need? someone who might share their last dollars with someone who is hungry?
Since when do stop accepting people for their difference in views and the life experiences that brought them to that point? If one considers themselves to be religious, don't all faiths preach acceptance of others. Since when are pastors, reverends, priests or congregation leaders perfect? They are only men.
Until we approach these subjects without becoming defensive, how can our country become united, fix our our economic mess, and even think of setting an example worldwide.
I want a President who can listen to other world leaders without passing judgement on their cultures and views. I want someone who is going to surround themselves with varying opinions. We've already seen people forced to resign from offices in the current administration who do not conform to their views.
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You don't have to spend time in a black church to know a foolish bigot when you see and hear one.