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Smiling JOe

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Just curious, has anyone pointed out that Palin has been in an Executive position while Obama has never served at the Executive level. Palin must make decisions in her role, while Obama has been able to skip voting (making decisions) in the Senate, not to mention, half of his time in the Senate, he has been campaigning rather than actually doing the job of a Senator.
 

GoodWitch58

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I don't see this news as a political issue, but as an insight into a candidate we frankly don't know a lot about.

Agree. And, it calls into play the judgment of the presidential candidate big time IMO.
As I said before, why is McCain risking his election? First the pending legislative investigation and now this...no matter if it all turns out fine for all concerned, it still raises questions that I am surprised a candidate and his campaign team would want to deal with...especially when the pay off does not seem to warrant the risk.
 

Matt J

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I know what you are saying, but someone forgot to tell that to the physiological bodies of teens. Sex drive is much stronger than will power at such an age. Today's teens don't look like the teens when I was growing up -- must be all of the steroids in the chickens we eat. :dunno: Mentally, these people are only kids because we don't expect more from a teenager. It is now illegal for a 13 year old kid to work in the US, but my grandmother was getting ready to raise a family not long after turning 13. I'd almost bet you that my grandmother's parents weren't thrilled with that idea either. They just accepted it.

ChickPea, don't wait til they are nine to begin introducing the talks. I was probably only in second grade when I started hearing about sex from a couple of my classmates -- The silly things they say. :funn: Maybe you just start with very vague big-picture topics at an earlier age, like the meaning, make-up and purpose of a family. By progressively introducing the topic, it won't be so difficult for you to talk about it at some magic age. The kids will likely be more understanding of it, rather than feeling weird about talking to their parents about it. My mom and dad never talked about it, don't even know how I was born, because I cannot imagine them having sex. :funn:If they had talked about it early enough, I wouldn't have thought that my classmates were right.

I think I understand where you are coming from. Society has surpassed biology in the sense of when a family should start. Thanks to technology and other modern advances we live much longer than we did 100 years ago. Human biology has not kept pace and so what we now consider to be far too young an age to start a family is still perfectly normal to the body itself. My grandmother didn't have her first child until she was in her late twenties. All of her relatives were convinced it was a fertility issue until she got pregnant. It wasn't a fertility issue, it was more tha fact that my grandfather was away at war and even upon return they didn't feel the need to rush to have children.

Chickpea the other way to ease kids into it is by starting with just correcting them on the proper terminology for body parts. That gets some of the giggling out of the way later on when the bigger issues come into play.
 

Matt J

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Just curious, has anyone pointed out that Palin has been in an Executive position while Obama has never served at the Executive level. Palin must make decisions in her role, while Obama has been able to skip voting (making decisions) in the Senate, not to mention, half of his time in the Senate, he has been campaigning rather than actually doing the job of a Senator.

What executive position has McCain held? He has been a senator for 20+ years.
 

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What executive position has McCain held? He has been a senator for 20+ years.

I am sure that he was an executive in charge of a squadron or a battalion in the Navy. Even being in charge of one person puts him ahead of Obama's leadership resume.

BTW: I'm not McCain supporter. I think that everyone should occasionally acknowledge a bit of reality.
 
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Smiling JOe

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I think I understand where you are coming from. Society has surpassed biology in the sense of when a family should start. Thanks to technology and other modern advances we live much longer than we did 100 years ago. Human biology has not kept pace and so what we now consider to be far too young an age to start a family is still perfectly normal to the body itself. ...

Not exactly. I think it is just the opposite. Biology has surpassed society. Maybe Biology has stayed the same, but society has fallen behind. If it takes longer for a person to act like and be thought of as an adult, society is not progressing.

What executive position has McCain held? He has been a senator for 20+ years.
I don't know. Palin has more executive experience in the last two years than all three of the others. ;-)
 

Matt J

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Not exactly. I think it is just the opposite. Biology has surpassed society. Maybe Biology has stayed the same, but society has fallen behind. If it takes longer for a person to act like and be thought of as an adult, society is not progressing.

Maybe I didn't word that correctly. Perhaps the Amish have it right, with all the additional things we need to know to function in this society it takes longer to teach all of it and therefore we surpass the natural point at which biology says "have a kid". So I guess we are agreeing. :dunno: Sorry this whole having kids thing and procreating isn't exactly my area of expertese. ;-)

I don't know. Palin has more executive experience in the last two years than all three of the others. ;-)

I guess that should be the scariest part of all. :eek:
 

30ashopper

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Right here!
Agree. And, it calls into play the judgment of the presidential candidate big time IMO.
As I said before, why is McCain risking his election? First the pending legislative investigation and now this...no matter if it all turns out fine for all concerned, it still raises questions that I am surprised a candidate and his campaign team would want to deal with...especially when the pay off does not seem to warrant the risk.

I think the pregnancy thing will be a talking point for about another two or three hours and then go away. The tropper thing isn't really getting covered much, and is just another blip on the screen. I really don't think he's risking much of anything. Social conservatives love this woman, and the economy thing was over rated. McCain was getting 50% of the vote anyway. I think it was a wise choice, just look at all the buzz it created.
 

LuciferSam

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I intend talking to both my girls about sex and sex education by the time they are 9 so that they hear it from me and not in the deformed, twisted way that kids sometimes share info with each other. I personally would not leave it to the schools to teach it (but I support it being taught because too many parents will not broach the subject with their kids).

I think it is unfair to judge a parent's success or failure for the actions of a teen - I have seen to many examples of parents having tried very hard to instill excellent values into their kids but it not working.... I do not believe Palin should be judged for what her daughter did.....

Kids definitely should learn the biology involved before they have the urge to put it into practice. Otherwise what you say may go in one ear and out the other. I learned from my parents at age eight. I asked my mother one day what the F-word meant. It was no big deal to her. She just set a time to sit down with my dad and me and have a talk. I was lucky that they were so open about stuff.
 

TooFarTampa

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I think the pregnancy thing will be a talking point for about another two or three hours and then go away. The tropper thing isn't really getting covered much, and is just another blip on the screen. I really don't think he's risking much of anything. Social conservatives love this woman, and the economy thing was over rated. McCain was getting 50% of the vote anyway. I think it was a wise choice, just look at all the buzz it created.

The men may stop talking about it. But the moms won't. :wave:

Edit to add that I think this story has legs and may sink his campaign. We still have 9 weeks to go, but I can honestly say that until this past week I was on the fence. I'm not anymore.
 
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