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[DemoLady]

Sex Education is a difficult topic

One of the hardest things I ever did was to call my OB-GYN and tell him to offer birth control pills to my "sweet, innocent, 16-year-old daughter" whom I guessed was sexually active. I cried, I beat myself up as an unfit mother, I wondered if I were doing the right thing.

She's now a 40-year-old mother of a 13 year-old daughter who told me recently she knew that "getting pregnant" was not something she could do because it would disappoint me so much. She didn't have a value system as a 16-year-old to practice "abstinence," but she knew that she should either use birth control or practice abstinence (which I explained to her was the most emotionally best thing for her to do).

Bringing an innocent life into the world is such a big deal that I believe parents and adults should do everything possible to keep their teenage sons and daughters from making one of the biggest mistakes of their lives -- because their hormones speak louder than their brains. That's why we're called parents. We know the consequences.

 

[Miss Critter]

Was it scary to you when George W. Bush took time as our President to campaign for re-election in 2004?

Hmmm, come to think of it, things were still running pretty well then. . . .Maybe his absence was the reason.

 

[Matt J]

It doesn't change my vote! heehee...

Seriously...here's the quote:

Obama to Media, Politicos on Palin Pregnancy Story: 'Back Off!'

September 01, 2008 2:28 PM
At a brief press availability in Monroe, Mich., ABC News asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., if he had any response to Gov. Sarah Palin's statement that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant.

"Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits," Obama said, "and people's children are especially off limits.

"This shouldn't be part of our politics," he continued, "It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.

"And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories," he said. "You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off limits."

While I do agree with what he says, I have to say that Gov. Palin herself is putting her daughter in the spot light.

Why shouldn't we question her 17 year-old pregnant daughter when Gov. Palin is trying to shove abstinence down our throats. I would say that someone who supports abstinence education over any other kind has some serious explaining to do when her own daughter comes up pregnant before marriage.

 

[NoHall]

I'm confused. Is teenaged abstinence now a bad thing? I missed that memo.

While I know lots of parents (let's skip the pro-life, pro-choice, Christian, non-Christian--these are just parents) who are in denial about their children, most who urge their children to not become sexually active are like DemoLady--if "preaching abstinence" doesn't take, they go with other protection.

Much like most parents preach, "Don't drive 80 in a 35, darling. It's not healthy." But when Junior goes to juvie court for reckless driving, he hands over the keys and goes to driving school.

Preaching abstinence is not to the exclusion of other ways of dealing with teenaged brains soaked in hormones. It usually has to do with protecting the child's innocence and his/her heart, not with birth control.

 

[GoodWitch58]

Hmmm, come to think of it, things were still running pretty well then. . . .Maybe his absence was the reason.

I have often said we would have been better off with "no President" than with the one we had...it's been his "sins of commission" that really upset me.

 

[Miss Critter]

Meanwhile, back at the ranch:

Palin hires attorney for Troopergate investigation

By STEVE QUINN, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 13 minutes ago

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP vice presidential candidate, is being represented by an attorney in the investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner.
The Legislature is investigating whether Palin fired public safety commissioner Walt Monegan after he refused to fire a state trooper who had divorced Palin's sister.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_palin_troopergate

 

[Andy A]

There are 3 senators campaigning and 1 governor. How well each of them is representing their states could be questioned. How do you propose election campaigning be done? We could likely dig up stuff on all of them that is a shame. For example when McCain was in Sturgis with the Harley bikers saying "Tell them to come back and get to work!" (senators) when he missed a vote for the eighth time in the past year on an important bill that would have extended the investment tax credits for installing solar energy and the production tax credits for building wind turbines and other energy-efficiency systems...

These kind of "conservation things" are issues I care about.

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You don't need to start campaigning for President almost the minute...Oh, forget it. Trying to debate with you and some of the others on this thread is an exercise in futility and frustration and not worthy of my time.

 

[Miss Kitty]

Dear Andy,

Have you thought of using the edit button and erasing your post?

 

[hnooe]

It doesn't change my vote! heehee...

Seriously...here's the quote:

Obama to Media, Politicos on Palin Pregnancy Story: 'Back Off!'

September 01, 2008 2:28 PM
At a brief press availability in Monroe, Mich., ABC News asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., if he had any response to Gov. Sarah Palin's statement that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant.

"Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits," Obama said, "and people's children are especially off limits.

"This shouldn't be part of our politics," he continued, "It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.

quote]

I have changed my view on this as well--Barack is right. Some may find this hard to believe, but I think one of the most distateful things that John Kerry in 2004 did was to drag Dick Cheney's Lesbian daughter and her partner into the gay marriage discussion at the Presidential debates of 2004. Mary Cheney and her partner had a baby through a sperm donor.

While it does not sync with the Republican stand on gay mariage at ALL, it did not need to be brought out at ALL--same with Sarah Palin's 17 year old daughter. The daughter did not ask her mom to be VP!!

 

[Gypsea]

What executive position has McCain held? He has been a senator for 20+ years.

McCain was the the Commanding Officer of a Replacement Air Group (?RAG?), a unit that trained replacement pilots.