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TheSheep avatar
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Holy`Shmoley, my SheepGod, I couldn't believe it.

It had been since the early 90s when I and Mrs. TheSheep escorted the rams to play baseball in nearby P.C. We left those wooly ballplayers and wandered off to the Grayton/Seaside/Etc. area. We found this quaint little fourplex and settled into the fourth of it. Off 30, back roads made of shelltails and cocklepuppies :idontno:, few neighbors, wide beaches, paradise found.

What the focken happened?

We recently turned off the Monster Highway to Rosemary Beach to be granted by stacked housing stacked on stacks of housing. TheSheep is a developer of barns, mainly commercial sheep centers, but I had no idea what those empty, "overpriced" lots of the early 90s were going to turn out looking like.

Before you get your knickers in a knot, ThisTheSheep is not criticizing in terms of "nonny nonny boo-boo, what the hell are you thinking about", your choice of stable, each to his own.

I can positively comment that the architectural diversity is rather eye-catching; WaterMark (sp??) is iris-candy, Alys Beach is supreme in its abstractness and that boat house thing, what Conspicuous Consumption Cooglehead is building that retina burner?

Seaside (square) looks like it got boxed in like Central Park (hey, why not build a few more and higher whatevers off the Square too..or, you are, my baaaaaaaaaaaaad).

It was a really dizzying experience for TheSheep; the Missus simply projectile vomited to perform her displeasure. :eek:

What a mix, a sense of community, crampness, beauty, distortion, investment value, serious $ to value outofunk ratios, luxury, cheepy (cheepy?), quaintness, soon-to-be-dead bicyclers, pedestrian friendliness, dogs n cats sleeping together........

I feel like I missed something and nothing all at the same time. :confused:

What I am trying to understand is the composite mentality of this living style. That is, what draws shee, er people to live on top of each other (careful........) and pay such inordinate sums for the privilidge?

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Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#177
You are more the rare SoWallian with so much freespace, my queries are directed to those that have chosen, say, Rosemary Beach than your estate.


hmmm. well, some folks love rosemary beach and watercolor type developments (side by side houses). we enjoy them as far as visiting or staying for a weekend - they are truly wonderful vacation destinations. I adore Seaside and pretend to be a tourist there quite often! but, for living my normal life - no thanks. I need and desire peace, on the bay. But, some folks love living in the middle of it all. and believe it or not, there are some rather private homes in Rosemary Beach (and other 30A resort towns) - tucked back. you have not seen them because you would really have to look hard to find them.

I think I would rather live in Bruce (north of here) to be quite honest. But, sowal offers a lot of the things that are perfect for our family right now.

our favorite thing about this area is Grayton Beach. it's our year round playground.
TripleB avatar
Beach Fanatic
#178
Sheep, I think you have a whacked-out view of life in SOWAL if you think that the only living options are Rosemary Beach or something north of the bay among the mere mortals. Might I suggest you take your next holiday in Mossy Head-BYOKY:funn:
TheSheep, maybe Chernobyl is you cup o' tea. Plenty of solitude and cute 3 headed ducks. It may make your outlook on life completely radiant! We will await your glowing review after your trip.
Beach Fanatic
#179
oh...Every kind of people, make the world go round... :cool: Good thing. What if everybody wanted a secluded lot? :idontno: :eek:
Gosh I :wub: love it everywhere down there. I :wub: Seacrest. I would really love a secluded lot on the bay or in Cape San Blas, or in Seacrest as long as it had some big trees. Nothing like a very old tree or 2 or 3 or 100.

I felt as if my heart had been ripped out when I arrived at our townhouse and developers had torn down all the trees on either side including a very old beautiful twisted up pine tree, home to a special little bird. :( If only I'd been there I'm so sure I coulda talked them into leaving it. They then planted a straight line of those big poisonous bushes instead, oleanders. :eek: That was a couple years ago...On the other side it still sits empty with weeds as construction has stopped for now it appears. I guess I need to move on...It just... hurt so bad...:cool: Wow, I need a music note smiley today!:D

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joho avatar
Beach Fanatic
#180
Driving 30-A to work this morning (2 miles from home) I couldn't help but think how fortunate I am to have a laid back job, be able to look at the beach on my way, check out my million dollar neighborhood with palm trees and poodle balls nicely groomed, and see the tourist in town enjoying themselves jogging, walking pets, eating at local establishments, and getting ready for a beautiful day at the beach. "Paradise"....................What a place! ;-)
Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#181
on the other hand joho, I was driving in Pt Washington where they just paved the E Pt Wash Road where a new development is going in. we drove through the development which was previously nothing but pristine woods and swamp. now it has asphalt roads which lead through an expansive area which has been totally wiped clean of any and all trees and shrub. the road sits so far up from the rest of the land its obviously filled to the brim with fill dirt, and the entire area was swamp. I was just devastated to see this in my own neighborhood. we are surrounded by state forest. Pt Wash is a forest. and an entire section has been leveled to build lord knows what kind of housing. I'm:pissed:
joho avatar
Beach Fanatic
#182
on the other hand joho, I was driving in Pt Washington where they just paved the E Pt Wash Road where a new development is going in. we drove through the development which was previously nothing but pristine woods and swamp. now it has asphalt roads which lead through an expansive area which has been totally wiped clean of any and all trees and shrub. the road sits so far up from the rest of the land its obviously filled to the brim with fill dirt, and the entire area was swamp. I was just devastated to see this in my own neighborhood. we are surrounded by state forest. Pt Wash is a forest. and an entire section has been leveled to build lord knows what kind of housing. I'm:pissed:


My heart goes out to you sister:wub:
Teresa avatar
SoWal Guide
#183
My heart goes out to you sister:wub:

but, I loved your little report, and I know that everything will be fine in sowal. except the swamps...
CPort avatar
Beach Fanatic
#184
I get upset too when trees are cut especially clear cut 4 a subdivision. :( It must be unbelievable to live there joho!! It's funny I was just thinking this am what it would be lkie to just get to stay a month down there,much less live there!!!:drool: :bicycle: :chill: :biggrin: :biggrin:
joho avatar
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#185
I get upset too when trees are cut especially clear cut 4 a subdivision. :( It must be unbelievable to live there joho!! It's funny I was just thinking this am what it would be lkie to just get to stay a month down there,much less live there!!!:drool: :bicycle: :chill: :biggrin: :biggrin:


All you have to do is pack the Griswald mobile and put it in "Drive" ;-)
TheSheep avatar
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#186
Wow, can't believe I just found this thread. It's quite obvious that the Sheep is just wanting to tout Cape San Blas over this area. I remember their first posts when they were discussing developing.

No need to even join this forum, we don't need anymore development in our area at this time..Sheep. You can continue to do as you wish over there, yet I for one, am not interested. :blush:
Ya' think, Johhny, being a REALTOR and all, ya' think that the Cape and TheSheep are trying to attract your market?

I mean outside of your ego revolving around your planetary head, and your vast knowledge of TheSheep and the Cape's real estate market, ya' tink that is why I am here?

Did you take anytime to read any of the thread before you came blastng with your guns as if you had? No? Imagine that, a thin, artificial, self-indulged "mirror friendly" Realtor, who da thunk it.

Go sell your overpriced home, Johhny......if you can. :shock:
TheSheep avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#187
oh...Every kind of people, make the world go round... :cool: Good thing. What if everybody wanted a secluded lot? :idontno: :eek:
Gosh I :wub: love it everywhere down there. I :wub: Seacrest. I would really love a secluded lot on the bay or in Cape San Blas, or in Seacrest as long as it had some big trees. Nothing like a very old tree or 2 or 3 or 100.

I felt as if my heart had been ripped out when I arrived at our townhouse and developers had torn down all the trees on either side including a very old beautiful twisted up pine tree, home to a special little bird. :( If only I'd been there I'm so sure I coulda talked them into leaving it. They then planted a straight line of those big poisonous bushes instead, oleanders. :eek: That was a couple years ago...On the other side it still sits empty with weeds as construction has stopped for now it appears. I guess I need to move on...It just... hurt so bad...:cool: Wow, I need a music note smiley today!:D
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TheSheep avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#188
TheSheep, maybe Chernobyl is you cup o' tea. Plenty of solitude and cute 3 headed ducks. It may make your outlook on life completely radiant! We will await your glowing review after your trip.
Nope, Russkies luv veal. :nono1:
TheSheep avatar
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#189
hmmm. well, some folks love rosemary beach and watercolor type developments (side by side houses). we enjoy them as far as visiting or staying for a weekend - they are truly wonderful vacation destinations. I adore Seaside and pretend to be a tourist there quite often! but, for living my normal life - no thanks. I need and desire peace, on the bay. But, some folks love living in the middle of it all. and believe it or not, there are some rather private homes in Rosemary Beach (and other 30A resort towns) - tucked back. you have not seen them because you would really have to look hard to find them.

I think I would rather live in Bruce (north of here) to be quite honest. But, sowal offers a lot of the things that are perfect for our family right now.

our favorite thing about this area is Grayton Beach. it's our year round playground.
Appreciate the answer, best to you. :clap_1:
TheSheep avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#190
There are, of course, too many beautiful places on earth for any one person to visit in a life time -- ten lifetimes. I think we all choose where we want to find our beauty, friends, peace, etc. If we're really lucky, we get to know some of these places more deeply and become part of the community with friends, family, and even a history within that community and some contributions to that community.

Clearly, what works as beauty and the good life for some people doesn't work for others. I like having people next door to me and I like sitting on the porch watching people walk by, talking to them, inviting them up for a snack -- it's the kind of environment I want our kids to grow up in as well. I like the kids hopping on a bike or taking a walk and knowing they can go to the beach, the market, a store, a fountain, a place to snack, a state park, etc. As an adult, I like being able to have all those things as well as many different kinds of restaurants, shops, a fantastic bookstore, outdoor concerts, even massages a few times a year. And all this within 6 miles of our cottage. And I know that most of the year -- September - May, I can get exceptional peace and quiet as well (with the exception of spring break). In the late fall, it's often just me and those I'm with at the beach and the Monarch Butterflies that migrate through for hours on end unless I/we seek out company. We've been connected to SoWal for over 4 years now and we're still looking forward to exploring some of the other areas nearby -- Cape Blas, etc. -- the nice thing about having a place here is that I'm not in a hurry to do those things because I figure we'll have decades to explore the area and for now we're just so happy right on our porch/beach/pool with each other and the wonderful people we've gotten to know in SoWal.

As some people on this board know, my two other favorite places on earth are a little town in Tuscany where my father was from and the coast of Maine. But SoWal has my heart - sigh :wub: Of course, SoWal has plenty of growing pains, but I'm happy to be part of it as it continues to find its way (that little town in Italy and the coast of Maine have changed, too, in the decades I've known them, but they're still awesome to me).

Frankly, my favorite threads on this board are not those that focus on complaints/insults/snide remarks, but those that share good humor, good will in good times and bad times, beautiful photos, and good ideas about places in SoWal and elsewhere to go, things to do, food, etc. But that's the beautify of SoWal.com -- there's something for everyone!
:clap_1:
TheSheep avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#191
we love cape san blas, especially indian pass, and visit often. it's so relaxing because there is almost nothing to do there unless you fish or scallop, or drive up to the apalachicola for some shopping. the piggly wiggly is charming. and some good seafood too (something sowal is quite lacking). it is an ideal vacation destination for those who enjoy a real get away (I do!). take your own food and plenty of reading material! and take your dogs - they love the wide open beaches and you have them all to yourself.
NumberOne thing to do in Cape San Blas = ramming. :rolling:
Banned
#192
sheep. surprised nobody else ever brought this up and that there should be such an outrage about your post.

that's same question we got from many visiting friends who we took around to shop for homes. because they're from the city (nyc, natch! & london visitors too! looking for second homes and future retirement-trying to get them away from south florida..ewwwwww), they were hoping for natural beauty and were willing to put up with the remoteness for a bit of space and nature. as far as the "seaside/watercolor/alys beach" developments, they didn't get it at all. of course they raved about the beach though! just felt like it was a better place to visit from time to time than invest in. lots of folks actually buying country homes instead. personally, i couldn't handle that weather!

we bought here and we love it, but we did buy a house that has a modicom of space between neighbors. frankly, i don't need a yard, but the hubby is funny about it.

i'm not offended by differing opinions or public wondering about stuff. i don't think you have an agenda or were trying to pick a fight at all! dunno why other people would think so negatively!

wish others would think better of folks and enjoy differing opinions :) they're not dangerous you know :)
Banned
#193
p.s. even in the city they had the sense to preserve 843 acres for public space-in the center of the island. it's called central park and it's 6% of the total land mass of manhattan.

oh- and golf courses and military land are not "public spaces"

more houses is not what makes housing valuable. quality of life, infrastructure and public spaces do. it's a good deal for the developers too. less investment- higher return - more tax breaks. but that's for folks who like to do less work and make a profit :)
Beach Fanatic
#194
I like it, I :wub: it. Different takes on what's happenin' in Sowal. :clap_1: Tootsie, I :wub: your little dino 'tar. Too precious! Also, your vacation idea above sounds sooo relaxing. I didn't quote it so it could stay more secret? ;-) Does anybody ever go to the springs? Like Morrison and Ponce de Leon Park? :biggrin: Wouldn't it be the bomb diggity to have a piece of land in the country with a little spring on it? :wub: Well, yes it would... :cool:
TheSheep avatar
Beach FanaticAuthor
#195
sheep. surprised nobody else ever brought this up and that there should be such an outrage about your post.

that's same question we got from many visiting friends who we took around to shop for homes. because they're from the city (nyc, natch! & london visitors too! looking for second homes and future retirement-trying to get them away from south florida..ewwwwww), they were hoping for natural beauty and were willing to put up with the remoteness for a bit of space and nature. as far as the "seaside/watercolor/alys beach" developments, they didn't get it at all. of course they raved about the beach though! just felt like it was a better place to visit from time to time than invest in. lots of folks actually buying country homes instead. personally, i couldn't handle that weather!

I'm with you, Babe, kool is 2 kold foor me.

we bought here and we love it, but we did buy a house that has a modicom of space between neighbors. frankly, i don't need a yard, but the hubby is funny about it.

i'm not offended by differing opinions or public wondering about stuff. i don't think you have an agenda or were trying to pick a fight at all! dunno why other people would think so negatively!

wish others would think better of folks and enjoy differing opinions :) they're not dangerous you know :)

My ewe got shot at, OK, not shot like a gun, OK, not a gun, OK like in a dirty look, OK, this 9 yo glanced at her. :idontno:

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