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Support and Defend the Constitution

Beach Lover
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"I, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;​
that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion;​
that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."​

I pass this e-mail to you for consideration. I did not write the words below; however, I believe what is said.
And if you are watching what is going all around you, then you know what I mean. If this email doesn't make any sense to you, then you are in deep trouble. This would mean you are not aware of what is going on all around you.
I have noted that many elected officials, both Democrats and Republicans, called upon America to unite behind President Obama.
Well, I want to make it clear to all who will listen that I AM NOT uniting behind President Obama! I will respect the Office which he holds, and I will acknowledge his abilities as an orator and word smith and pray for him, BUT that is it. I have started to work hard to make sure that he is a one-term President!
Why am I doing this? Because:
I do not share President Obama's vision or Value System for America;
I do not share his Abortion beliefs;
I do not share his radical Marxist's concept of re-distributing wealth;
I do not share his stated views on raising taxes on those who make
$150,000+ (the ceiling has been changed three times since August);
I do not share his view that America is Arrogant;
I do not share his view that America is not a Christian Nation; (THIS JUST SHOWS HE CERTAINLY ISN?T UP ON HIS AMERICAN HISTORY!)
I do not share his view that the military should be reduced by 25%;
I do not share his view of amnesty and giving more to illegals than
American Citizens who need help; (NO WAY, HOSEA!)
I do not share his views on homosexuality and his definition of marriage;
I do not share his views that Radical Islam is our friend and Israel
is our enemy who should give up any land; (GIMME A BREAK!) ;
I do not share his spiritual beliefs (at least the ones he has made public);
I do not share his beliefs on how to re-work the healthcare system in America;
I do not share his Strategic views of the Middle East, and certainly do
not share his plan to sit down with terrorist regimes such as Iran.

Bottom line, my America is vastly different from President Obama's, and I have a
higher obligation to my Country and my God to do what is Right!
For eight (8) years, the Liberals in our Society, led by numerous
entertainers who would have no platform and no real credibility but for
their celebrity status, have attacked President Bush, his family, and his spiritual beliefs!
They have not moved toward the center in their beliefs and their
philosophies, and they never came together nor compromised their
personal beliefs for the betterment of our Country! They have
portrayed my America as a land where everything is tolerated except being intolerant!
They have been a vocal and irreverent minority for years; they have
mocked and attacked the very core values so important to the founding and
growth of our Country!
They have made every effort to remove the name of God or Jesus Christ
from our Society!
They have challenged capital punishment, the right to bear firearms,
and the most basic principles of our criminal code; they have attacked
one of the most fundamental of all Freedoms, the right of free
speech! And they forgot what this country was built on Judeo-Christian
principles! They fail to realize when they took "God out of
everything" this country went on a downhill spiral fast and they still believe this County is Unite behind President Obama? Never!
I refuse to retreat one more inch in favor of those whom I believe are the embodiment of Evil!

President Bush made mistakes during his Presidency, (EVERY PRESIDENT DOES) however;
I believe that he weighed his decisions in light of the long
established Judeo-Christian principles of our Founding Fathers!!!
Majority rules in America, and I will honor the concept; however, I
will fight with all of my power to be a voice in opposition to President Obama and "his goals for America ".
Because I am going to be a thorn in the side of those who, if left unchecked,
will destroy our Country!! Any more compromise is more defeat! I pray
that now Obama is President and has shown his true colors, everyone
concerned will wake up the many that have sat on the sidelines and
allowed the Socialist-Marxist anti-God crowd to slowly change so much of
what has been good in America!
"Error of Opinion may be tolerated where Reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson
"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."- Ronald Reagan
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
[FONT=&quot]We are about to lose the freedom we have cherished for so long unless YOU AND I
..... WAKE UP NOW! Are you hearing what I am saying? WAKE UP! [/FONT]

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Geo avatar
Beach Fanatic
#152
What were they wrong about??

Wooden teeth, slavery, women's rights...
Anyone else???
Bobby J avatar
Beach Fanatic
#153
When it is a choice between the life of the mother or the baby, then it should be left up to the mother.

HOWEVER, cases where the mothers life is in danger represent a TINY fraction of all the abortions performed in this country. This is a very, very weak argument for keeping abortion legal.

I typically avoid this issue but after raising daughters and having all their friends over to the house over years am told that I don't get to decide what a woman does with her body. I am told this issue should be off limits for fat white guys to decide.
LuciferSam avatar
Banned
#154
What were they wrong about??

Slavery, women's voting rights, hygiene. I amazed anyone would even have to ask that question, and like I said, our constitution has been amended a few times. Somebody thought it was wrong. Who's logic skills are weak on this one?
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#155
It's a good thing only a very small fraction of the populace thinks like you. Imagine where we would be today if most American and European men walked your walk in 1915-1918 or 1939-1945 or 2001-today. Pacifism doesn't work unless you want to be overrun by dictators and thugs.

Unfortunately, there is a lot of evil in the world (both in our own neighborhoods--thats why we have the police--and in other countries--thats why we have a military). God bless the men and women and uniform (both locally and nationally).
religion and the military in the same sentence...nice. how about korea,vietnam? you still think iraq was about 9/11. what are we doing in afghanistan? what's the goal?
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#156
Wooden teeth, slavery, women's rights...
Anyone else???
not worthy of a reply
Beach Fanatic
#157
Slavery, women's voting rights, hygiene. I amazed anyone would even have to ask that question, and like I said, our constitution has been amended a few times. Somebody thought it was wrong. Who's logic skills are weak on this one?

Did you know--

That the words slave or slavery do not appear in the Constitution because there was a tremendous amount of friction over slavery at the time our country was formed. There are references to in the 3/5 person clause, the right to restrict the trade and the reference to the someone held to service that escapes to another state. However, the constitution did not make slavery legal. The amendment was added to make it very clear that slavery was not legal once everyone got their heads screwed on straight.

That the original Constitution does not guarantee anyone the right to vote--not men, women, whites, blacks, etc.? That was to be left up to the states to decide. The 15th and 19th amendments clarified that the right to vote could not be denied based on sex or race. However, the constitution still does not give everyone a right to vote.


The amendments seem to be clarifications made to the original constitution, not corrections of previous egregious errors.

Read it through in detail.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#158
Did you know--

That the words slave or slavery do not appear in the Constitution because there was a tremendous amount of friction over slavery at the time our country was formed. There are references to in the 3/5 person clause, the right to restrict the trade and the reference to the someone held to service that escapes to another state. However, the constitution did not make slavery legal. The amendment was added to make it very clear that slavery was not legal once everyone got their heads screwed on straight.

That the original Constitution does not guarantee anyone the right to vote--not men, women, whites, blacks, etc.? That was to be left up to the states to decide. The 15th and 19th amendments clarified that the right to vote could not be denied based on sex or race. However, the constitution still does not give everyone a right to vote.


The amendments seem to be clarifications made to the original constitution, not corrections of previous egregious errors.

Read it through in detail.
the word genocide did not appear in the constitution either. how many slaves did george washington have at mount vernon?

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Beach Fanatic
#159
religion and the military in the same sentence...nice. how about korea,vietnam? you still think iraq was about 9/11. what are we doing in afghanistan? what's the goal?

Maybe you should ask the chosen one--Obama--what the goal is in Afghanistan. He seems intent on winning the war there.

How about answering the question about WWI and WWII before we delve into the other minor wars? Where would we be if there had been a couple hundred million Bob's walking around the US, Russia and Europe in the early to mid 1900's.

If you can't come up with an answer, here it is. We would be in a world of hurt shouting Heil Hitler to each other with no more Jews, no more Muslims, no more Christians, etc. in the world.

Pacifists are only pacifists until it hits home directly. If someone came into your home to kill you and your family, would you defend yourself or simply sit there and let it happen?


I assume that you've read the Bible. Remember the old testament, I believe that is a part of the Bible? Seems to me that the Bible makes at least one or two references to the military and winning battles with God's help. Doesn't it or did I misread something.

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Beach Fanatic
#160
I typically avoid this issue but after raising daughters and having all their friends over to the house over years am told that I don't get to decide what a woman does with her body. I am told this issue should be off limits for fat white guys to decide.

Who says I'm a fat white guy??? Who says I don't have daughters??
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#161
Maybe you should ask the chosen one--Obama--what the goal is in Afghanistan. He seems intent on winning the war there.

How about answering the question about WWI and WWII before we delve into the other minor wars? Where would we be if there had been a couple hundred million Bob's walking around the US, Russia and Europe in the early to mid 1900's.

If you can't come up with an answer, here it is. We would be in a world of hurt shouting Heil Hitler to each other with no more Jews, no more Muslims, no more Christians, etc. in the world.

Pacifists are only pacifists until it hits home directly. If someone came into your home to kill you and your family, would you defend yourself or simply sit there and let it happen?
i've posted this past week that no war since ww2 was necessary. i'm perfectly willing for the federal government to cede large areas of the south to be called jesusland. you will the be free to label anyone not like you thugs so that you may have never ending war, except on sundays. sunday will be a day of rest and tithing with money you would have paid in taxes to the marxist feds.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#162
the word genocide did not appear in the constitution either. how many slaves did george washington have at mount vernon?
the answer is washington had twice as many slaves as thomas jefferson, but jefferson had more sex with his slaves.
Beach Fanatic
#163
the word genocide did not appear in the constitution either. how many slaves did george washington have at mount vernon?


I believe it was around 300. If I read correctly, he wanted to free his slaves but his wife did not want to free hers. He did not want to break up the families that had intermarried by freeing some of the slaves but not all.

Slavery was flat out wrong. But, the constitution did not make slavery legal. So, they did not get it totally wrong IN THE CONSTITUTION, nor did they get it right by strictly forbidding it intially. Some of the founding fathers were for and some against. Unfortunately, it took another 170 years for everyone to get it right in our code of laws to ban all discrimination based on race and sex (actually there are still too many people, both white and black, that can't look past skin color in dealing with fellow human beings).
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#164
Who says I'm a fat white guy??? Who says I don't have daughters??
bobb j has a black helicopter following you to the porno shop everyday. he's referring to lawmakers/judges.
LuciferSam avatar
Banned
#165
I believe it was around 300. If I read correctly, he wanted to free his slaves but his wife did not want to free hers. He did not want to break up the families that had intermarried by freeing some of the slaves but not all.

Slavery was flat out wrong. But, the constitution did not make slavery legal. So, they did not get it totally wrong IN THE CONSTITUTION, nor did they get it right by strictly forbidding it intially. Some of the founding fathers were for and some against. Unfortunately, it took another 170 years for everyone to get it right in our code of laws to ban all discrimination based on race and sex (actually there are still too many people, both white and black, that can't look past skin color in dealing with fellow human beings).

Great! Thank you! Getting back to the original point,:wave: you have clearly demonstrated that at least some of the founding fathers were wrong about things.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#166
I believe it was around 300. If I read correctly, he wanted to free his slaves but his wife did not want to free hers. He did not want to break up the families that had intermarried by freeing some of the slaves but not all.

Slavery was flat out wrong. But, the constitution did not make slavery legal. So, they did not get it totally wrong IN THE CONSTITUTION, nor did they get it right by strictly forbidding it intially. Some of the founding fathers were for and some against. Unfortunately, it took another 170 years for everyone to get it right in our code of laws to ban all discrimination based on race and sex (actually there are still too many people, both white and black, that can't look past skin color in dealing with fellow human beings).
so who was the father of our country? who was the mack-daddy of the founding fathers fisher? slaveholder? who wrote the declaration of independence, in it stating that all men are created equal? another slaveholder? any idea...you are into detail, correct?
Beach Fanatic
#167
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Central governments should always be balanced by strong local governments. (See Hitler, Stalin, Kim Jong, Chavez, etc. for references as to why..)



Now, here is something that might make me a bit afraid: the house on C Street; if they are inviting some of the lobbyists from K Street, we may really have something to be afraid of. I guess the situation must have awakened some other folks as well...

WORLD Magazine | All in the family | Emily Belz, Edward Lee Pitts | Aug 29, 09

It is the role of the press to expose this kind of thing for what it is...and that is part of the responsibility we each have to make sure our elected officials are behaving appropriately IMO and from my reading of our country's founding.
Beach Fanatic
#168
Great! Thank you! Getting back to the original point,:wave: you have clearly demonstrated that at least some of the founding fathers were wrong about things.

Yes, my question was meant to refer to what they got wrong in drafting the constitution. Not what they got wrong in their personal lives.
LuciferSam avatar
Banned
#169
bobb j has a black helicopter following you to the porno shop everyday. he's referring to lawmakers/judges.

I think I see the problem. A debate needs at least two participants.
Beach Fanatic
#170
I typically avoid this issue but after raising daughters and having all their friends over to the house over years am told that I don't get to decide what a woman does with her body. I am told this issue should be off limits for fat white guys to decide.

In the most recent Gallup poll regarding abortion, more women said they were pro life than said they were pro choice. Guess your daughters and her friends are in the minority on this one.

All the women in my extended families are very pro life. They believe the woman has the right to make a choice to have sex that might produce a life. But, they do not believe that a woman has the choice to end the life of another human being once conceived.
Beach Fanatic
#171
bobb j has a black helicopter following you to the porno shop everyday. he's referring to lawmakers/judges.

Wow. Good one.
Beach Fanatic
#172
so who was the father of our country? who was the mack-daddy of the founding fathers fisher? slaveholder? who wrote the declaration of independence, in it stating that all men are created equal? another slaveholder? any idea...you are into detail, correct?

Again, I am referring to the constitution that the founding fathers drafted. Not to their personal lives. Isn't this thread about the constitution??
Beach Fanatic
#173
i've posted this past week that no war since ww2 was necessary. i'm perfectly willing for the federal government to cede large areas of the south to be called jesusland. you will the be free to label anyone not like you thugs so that you may have never ending war, except on sundays. sunday will be a day of rest and tithing with money you would have paid in taxes to the marxist feds.

What is your stance on Obama and Afghanistan? Should he pull the troops out immediately?
Beach Fanatic
#174
I think I see the problem. A debate needs at least two participants.


I don't believe you or Bob know what real debate means. It certainly doesn't entail name calling and insults which both of you seem to do with tremendous regularity with folks that disagree with you.
Bobby J avatar
Beach Fanatic
#175
In the most recent Gallup poll regarding abortion, more women said they were pro life than said they were pro choice. Guess your daughters and her friends are in the minority on this one.

All the women in my extended families are very pro life. They believe the woman has the right to make a choice to have sex that might produce a life. But, they do not believe that a woman has the choice to end the life of another human being once conceived.

The fat remark was not directed at you. Sorry if that came out wrong. I was merely making comments direct from a house full of women. I don't typically like to hop in this political stuff. I seem to do better in the RE section but as the market has picked up it has gotten pretty boring. They could very well be in the minority. I just think it makes sense to me since I can not get pregnant to let the women worry about that one.
Bob avatar
SoWal Insider
#176
What is your stance on Obama and Afghanistan? Should he pull the troops out immediately?
not a winnable war by any measurable standard. give the afghans/pashtuns back their country in exchange for the right to hunt al qaeda

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