Let me preface what I'm going to say about the Honor Guard. I have a ton of respect for the Sheriff's office and what they do and I'm only asking a question...not trying to start a "flame throwing" contest.
Danny perhaps you can answer this...
The Sheriff sent the Honor Guard Unit to Houston for the funeral of a Sheriff's Deputy (murdered Aug 28, 2015) to represent the Citizens of Walton County.
How many men make-up the Honor Guard?
How are these types of events funded?
Is the Honor Guard sent to all funerals for fallen officers around the Country?
Is there a travel and accommodations budget for these kind of events and if so, how big is that budget?
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72BannedAuthor
Please ask the Sheriff's office directly and post here what you find out.Have no doubt I will find out Dawn. Not sure the Sheriff will give up the info willingly but it is public record.
SoWal Guide
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Thanks to WCSO for sending your guard to Houston to honor fellow officer Deputy Goforth who was shot 15 times while pumping gas, by a mentally incompetent man with a gun and a long criminal record.
There are many terrible social problems going on in this country.
Traveling to a fellow officers funeral and offering support for his family and community is a small but important part that local law enforcement agencies do for one another often.
It's nothing new. It's a traditional part of law enforcement culture. Especially in certain tragedies. 11,000 law enforcement officers attended from all over the country.
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BannedAuthor
LOL!
BannedAuthor
P.S. Not laughing at the death of this officer. It was tragic.
LMAO at the fact people support waste and abuse of taxpayer money!!
LMAO at the fact people support waste and abuse of taxpayer money!!
SoWal Guide
HOUSTON —
Thousands of law enforcement officers stood at attention to form a wall Friday outside one of Houston's largest churches as a 21-gun salute and flyover by police helicopters were carried out in honor of a slain sheriff's deputy.
The symbolic gestures followed the funeral for Harris County Sheriff's Deputy Darren Goforth, who was gunned down at a gas pump a week ago.
"We come to this place with heavy hearts, and have questions we don't really understand," Lt. Don Savell, the sheriff's department chaplain, said as the ceremony began. "We gather to share the grief we all feel and perhaps to find the strength to bear our sorrow and to look for seeds of hope."
Second Baptist Church, which holds 7,000 people, was filled. Some officers stood outside and watched the nearly two-hour service on big-screen televisions, while other spectators gathered outside the suburban convenience store where Goforth was killed to view the funeral on screens set up there. Flowers, balloons, posters and written messages in memory of Goforth still surround the pump where he was shot.
Goforth, 47, was in uniform when he was killed while putting fuel in his patrol car. A 30-year-old Houston man is charged with capital murder. Investigators are still trying to determine a motive.
"Darren Goforth was one of the good guys, one that made a difference," Sheriff Ron Hickman said during the funeral. He said Goforth's life was taken "senselessly and in an act of cowardice" the night of Aug. 28 but that he and others "will answer calls in Darren's honor."
He said about 11,000 officers from "coast to coast" had come to pay respects.
Outside the church after the service, Hickman gave Goforth's wife, Kathleen, the flag that had been draped over the casket.
A line of patrol cars formed a large cross in the parking lot, and two Houston fire trucks with ladders extended formed an arch with a flag extended at the top. People lined streets as the funeral procession drove away. A private burial was planned. Read more.. Houston-area sheriff's deputy remembered during funeral
Thousands of law enforcement officers stood at attention to form a wall Friday outside one of Houston's largest churches as a 21-gun salute and flyover by police helicopters were carried out in honor of a slain sheriff's deputy.
The symbolic gestures followed the funeral for Harris County Sheriff's Deputy Darren Goforth, who was gunned down at a gas pump a week ago.
"We come to this place with heavy hearts, and have questions we don't really understand," Lt. Don Savell, the sheriff's department chaplain, said as the ceremony began. "We gather to share the grief we all feel and perhaps to find the strength to bear our sorrow and to look for seeds of hope."
Second Baptist Church, which holds 7,000 people, was filled. Some officers stood outside and watched the nearly two-hour service on big-screen televisions, while other spectators gathered outside the suburban convenience store where Goforth was killed to view the funeral on screens set up there. Flowers, balloons, posters and written messages in memory of Goforth still surround the pump where he was shot.
Goforth, 47, was in uniform when he was killed while putting fuel in his patrol car. A 30-year-old Houston man is charged with capital murder. Investigators are still trying to determine a motive.
"Darren Goforth was one of the good guys, one that made a difference," Sheriff Ron Hickman said during the funeral. He said Goforth's life was taken "senselessly and in an act of cowardice" the night of Aug. 28 but that he and others "will answer calls in Darren's honor."
He said about 11,000 officers from "coast to coast" had come to pay respects.
Outside the church after the service, Hickman gave Goforth's wife, Kathleen, the flag that had been draped over the casket.
A line of patrol cars formed a large cross in the parking lot, and two Houston fire trucks with ladders extended formed an arch with a flag extended at the top. People lined streets as the funeral procession drove away. A private burial was planned. Read more.. Houston-area sheriff's deputy remembered during funeral
BannedAuthor
One (1) officer was sufficient!!
SoWal Guide
That's a matter for the sheriff's office to decide as they know the situation and circumstances. I'm sure each situation is different.
Beach Fanatic
To answer the question, the Sheriff is a constitutional officer and is solely responsible for how his budget is spent. The BCC sets the budget amount each year. If the BCC and Sheriff cannot agree on the amount, then the Sheriff can appeal to the Governor for a final decision. Once the budget figure is set, the Sheriff has wide latitude on how the funds are expended. For example, the BCC cannot tell the Sheriff he cannot spend money to send officers to wherever he wants to send them. The only real brake is that if the Sheriff exceeds his budget amount he could be personally liable for the shortfall. So most Sheriff's are very cautious about making sure there are enough funds to make it to the end of the budget year. That is also why there is usually a large number of expenditures in September so that most of the money is spent.
BannedAuthor
That is also why there is usually a large number of expenditures in September so that most of the money is spent.
Then ask for more money because you frivolously spent money where it could have been saved.
The Sheriff's budget now is larger than life.
SoWal Guide
Thanks Danny. Always wondered how that worked.
Beach Fanatic
I found out the hard way when I was Corrections Director that turning back large amounts of money at the end of the budget cycle is not viewed as a good thing by many people in county government. 
SoWal Guide
I found out the hard way when I was Corrections Director that turning back large amounts of money at the end of the budget cycle is not viewed as a good thing by many people in county government.
It's the same in most governments. I worked for city of Gainesville Fire Dept several years in charge of the budget. We worked hard to create good programs and budgets but then implementing and appropriate spending requires good oversight and hard work. Having money leftover was frowned upon. Meeting objectives and managing new and existing budgets across the board not always easy. But the City demanded good management policy so that was appreciated.
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BannedAuthor
I found out the hard way when I was Corrections Director that turning back large amounts of money at the end of the budget cycle is not viewed as a good thing by many people in county government.
How sad is that?
Beach Fanatic
Misty, sometimes I am wrong. This time, on this issue, you are.
SoWal Guide
I don't think it is right or wrong. We all have a right to ask questions, learn more and form opinions.
This issue reminds me of all the ways I've seen law enforcement and fire departments cross boundaries in so many ways over the years. In emergency response situations as well as supporting of fellow responders from all over.
This issue reminds me of all the ways I've seen law enforcement and fire departments cross boundaries in so many ways over the years. In emergency response situations as well as supporting of fellow responders from all over.
BannedAuthor
Misty, sometimes I am wrong. This time, on this issue, you are.If I'm wrong for believing it was over the top to send upwards of 13 people to Houston when one would have sufficed then so be it Andy.
Beach Fanatic
#431
Vroom vroom vroom!!!
BannedAuthor
View attachment 56477Another epic fail from the Sheriff. Who could forget that?
Vroom vroom vroom!!!
Moderator
I watched this from the beginning. It started as a question and, then, devolved into an argument over opinion. Misty has opinion, Teresa has an opinion. Andy has an opinion. I have an opinion. They are neither right nor wrong. They are all individually our opinions, and we are equally entitled to them.
But Jeez o' pete...
Just because everybody's opinions aren't the same doesn't mean that people need to keep posting the same thought over and over again just to bash on the people who reply with an opinion counter to somebody else's.
Misty wants one person. Andy wants more. Teresa may be somewhere in the middle. Great. End of story. Nobody is right. Nobody is wrong. If it exceeds budget, then, you have an argument, but right now there is only opinion. You have voiced your opinion. Quit beating up on each other because your opinions don't match.
Good grief...
But Jeez o' pete...
Just because everybody's opinions aren't the same doesn't mean that people need to keep posting the same thought over and over again just to bash on the people who reply with an opinion counter to somebody else's.
Misty wants one person. Andy wants more. Teresa may be somewhere in the middle. Great. End of story. Nobody is right. Nobody is wrong. If it exceeds budget, then, you have an argument, but right now there is only opinion. You have voiced your opinion. Quit beating up on each other because your opinions don't match.
Good grief...
SoWal Guide
LOL Will B. Completely up to the Sheriff, imo.
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Beach Comber
Misty, maybe you should worry a little less about the sheriff's budget and a little more about the number of law enforcement officers being slaughter in this country. We really need to get a handle on why and what is happening to those who protect us every day of our lives.Facts are stupid things, where is Poppy when you need him?
National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Officer Deaths by Year
National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Preliminary 2015 Fatality Statistics
BannedAuthor
Facts are stupid things, where is Poppy when you need him?
National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Officer Deaths by Year
National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Preliminary 2015 Fatality Statistics
Who has argued those facts? Fact is, NO ONE has!
Beach Comber
Who has argued those facts? Fact is, NO ONE has!War on Cops: Ambush Threat in Cleveland - Breitbart
The war on cops, according to an ex-NY polish commissioner
Fox Cop: ‘President Of The United States Started This War On Police’ [VIDEO]
And on and on and on and on....................
Beach Fanatic
13 Officers are 12 too many to have sent. Those men and women could have been used elsewhere. Does anyone have the breakdown on how much it cost and where the funds came from?
Spend that budget money quick Mike so you can ask for more in 2016.
Spend that budget money quick Mike so you can ask for more in 2016.
BannedAuthor
War on Cops: Ambush Threat in Cleveland - Breitbart
The war on cops, according to an ex-NY polish commissioner
Fox Cop: ‘President Of The United States Started This War On Police’ [VIDEO]
And on and on and on and on....................
What's your point?
Is it the Walton County taxpayers responsibility to send the Honor Guard (up to 13 men) to every police killing in the Country??? Hell no its not!
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