Ebro Greyhounds

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  1. tsutcli

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    Oops sorry, I just spotted an earlier post about walking a Grey off the leash. Yes I have and they DO NOT run away. They are very devoted pets and very laid back. Once they are retired they are called "40 mile an hour couch potatoes" because all they want to do is enjoy the easy life. They are not hyper active and when they are retired, they are really RETIRED and we even have a neighborhood rabbit that seems to like our Greyhound and the feeling is mutual so there you go. Unless you have actually owned one you would never know.
     
  2. avalon

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    I do hope that the management is truly upset on behalf of the dogs and not just the bad press. Maybe they did not know about this particular incident, I can not say for certain. I still think the industry is wrong in general, but I am sorry for the employees who make their living at the track. It is not a snap judgement.
     
  3. avalon

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    That is a bit of a stretch, even for a you. I don't boycott the pharmacy because somebody else sells crack on the corner. The card room comment is from my husband, I don't neccessarily agree with that part. Maybe "gaming" is a better use of the facility and a better job for the employees too.
     
  4. shellak

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    you clearly have a connection to the track and know nothing about adopting greyhounds. i do know since i've had one since 2005. greyhounds do not need a lot of exercise or space. they are very content being walked on a leash. they are bred (not "bread", like you said, which is a food) for racing because it's all about making money...greed. these dogs are crated for most of the day. what happens to these dogs has been exposed before - catch the episode of "real sports" on HBO where they show a happy go lucky greyhound in a vet's office one minute, then being dumped into a large garbage bag the next. dog racing has been banned in many states...it was eliminated in masssachusetts by voter referendum in 2008 with a 2 year moratorium to place the dogs and for workers to find new employment. if you need to make a living this way, you might want to think about another profession. i'm betting most of the workers are seasonal, anyway, because if there were fulltime people around all year, surely one of the them would have found 33 dead dogs, ya think????
     
  5. Koa

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    I know nothing about greyhounds, so thanks for educating me on that. Sounds like greyhounds would make excellent pets.

    Jobs in Ebro -- my thought is that if Ebro Dog Track cared about its future and its employees, it would at least keep an eye on the dogs and dog owners who lease kennels on property and race there. I'm not against dog racing, or gambling, but I think the track owners should care enough about their business future to give a damn about their golden eggs (the dogs).

    It's like any other business, there are crooks and shysters in every industry, but that doesn't make the industry bad or wrong. Industries need more self-policing, with high standards, and anytime someone steps out of line, they need to be kicked hard by everyone else in the industry who looks bad as result of the negative actions of the few.
     
  6. Matt J

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    Well I'm clearly in the wrong for my misspelling. :roll: A friend of mine had 2 rescue greyhounds. We walked them one time and they got off the leash, they were gone in about 5 seconds chasing something. They did come back, but he was extremely upset and said it had happened before. I'll stop posting about my personal experience and just stick with the hysteria that seems to be brewing.

    As far as a connection with the track, I don't have one other than having played cards there on occasion.

    As I understand it the management is currently looking into CCTV for the kennels so that they, the trainers, and the guards can monitor them 24 hours a day at the track and remotely to prevent this kind of thing or any abuse.
     
  7. Matt J

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    How so? You (we're not supposed to share screen names on sowal) advocated boycotting the track and the card room based on an independent individuals actions. My point is perfectly valid that if that reasoning is used then we should boycott photographers because some paparazzi killed Princess Diana.
     
  8. avalon

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    OK, I see what you are saying. I guess my feeling is one bad apple busted could point a spotlight on many more abuses. Granted, not to this extreme, but even under "normal" conditions what a terrible life (and death) for the dogs! I must admit that I hope that the public will see that the dog racing business is not a savory affair and not support it in general. I have nothing against consenting adults spending their money in card rooms or casinos. Marty says he tried to sign in but could not- I will caution him about the rules. Have a nice evening. l
     
  9. Matt J

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    I understand what you are saying as well. Unfortunately in Florida to have a card room you have to have either A) a dog track or B) Native American heritage. I think you can also have one with a jai alai operation.
     
  10. tsutcli

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    Another interesting fact. Dog tracks in Florida are not state regulated and Florida is the only state where tracks are NOT regulated in the entire country! We also have half of all the tracks here so this does not make sense to me. If Ebro was a regulated track, they would have state regulators at the track daily and they would be able to check on all the kennels on a regular basis. They also check on the dogs on a regular basis and make sure they are drug free. There would also be a Vet on staff for the dogs. In the meantime if racing in this state continues but I personally would like to see it stopped, you would hope that Ebro and the other tracks in this state become regulated like all the other tracks in this county. We do need more legislation to protect these dogs that have no voice! That may be the reason Williams was able to sneak in and race his dogs at Ebro in spite of the fact that he had a record of drugging his dogs three different times and not two as I previously stated. If Ebro was a regulated track, they would have kept an eye on those dogs and the tragedy inside that kennel would not have occurred.
     
  11. avalon

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    Let's have Jai Alai

    Like on the opening credits of Miami Vice! Now that would be cool. I would go to Ebro to see that for sure. What crazy regulations we have, must be a lobbyist somewhere doing his/her job very well.
     
  12. tsutcli

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    True but actually in order to have poker and slot machines you have to have dog racing too. Stupid thing is the poker and machines bring in LOTS more money than the dog racing. Again, how stupid is that?
     
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    Laws and regulations can be changed, yes?
     
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    To clear up a few things. The trainer who would "sneak" the dogs to me was given instructions to destroy the dogs by their respective owners. Yes, I have walked many greyhounds, taught them what stairs were all about and that you can't walk through glass.

    You do not "kennel" a pet, and these dogs are actually a bit lazy and quite content to just to hang out wih you.

    Many vet clinics have a resident greyhound as a blood donor. Greyhounds are the only breed that is a universal donor, so they also save the lives of other dogs. Hope this does not come across as "raising hell and protest", just wanted to have my say.
     
  15. scooterbug44

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    Your friend who snuck you the dogs would have done better to inform the authorities IMO.

    I saw one of the dogs (who will live) on the news last night and wanted to puke. Anyone who ever came within 200 feet of this dog or its fellow sufferers would immediately know something was wrong, so I find it VERY hard to believe the owners at Ebro and everyone else involved was truly unaware of the situation.

    My guess is that many blind eyes were turned and these animals suffered horribly as a result.

    I don't own greyhounds, but friends do and while they are lovely dogs I find the idea that they are inactive and good as apartment dogs hilarious. They are literally a blur as they do laps around the room or yard. :wub:
     
  16. ktschris

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    I've adopted greyhounds in the past, mainly because when I lived in florida in the 90's (St. Pete area) stories like this one were very common. It was usually some poor phone company worker that would stumble onto a mass grave.

    For those of you who let your greys run off their leash... you have been very lucky. Yes, these beautiful spirits do make devoted and loyal pets BUT they are do have an inherent urge to run. They are sight hounds and for centuries used as hunting dogs. A greyhound can see almost a mile away. If they spot something in that distance, you better believe they are going after it. If and when they stop...many times they can not find their way back home.

    There are 3 very reputable rescue agencies in the St. Louis area, REGAP and Rescued Racers and Greyhound Companions....ALL 3 require you sign a contract stating that under no circumstances will you to just let your grey run outside of an enclosed area. They will take your dog back if they find this to be the case.
     
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    They sure as hell need to be.

    The fact that this happened, went on for so long, AND this psycho can still own and race animals is ridiculous! :angry:
     
  18. Smiling JOe

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    Or, as others suggest, you boycott the crap out of Ebro to show dog tracks owners, trainers, breeders, etc, and employees that they shouldn't treat animals inhumanly, or allow it to continue once seen. Their jobs are at risk, just like every other industry. That will wake them up much faster than any government regulation.
     
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  19. kathydwells

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    Ours were couch potatoes. All they wanted was a comfortable place to sleep. One was 3 when he was adopted. One was 4 four when he was found on the side of the road by my stepmother. He fell out of the back of a an owners truck and the owner left him for dead. I don't think these two had any run left in them. They each lived 9 more years with my parents.
     
  20. rolling dune

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    I just happened upon a trainer with a heart. The "authorities" are a misguided state run cluster. They know all too well that over 13,000 dogs are destroyed each year nationwide.
     

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