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tsutcli

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Jan 14, 2008
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Oops sorry, I just spotted an earlier post about walking a Grey off the leash. Yes I have and they DO NOT run away. They are very devoted pets and very laid back. Once they are retired they are called "40 mile an hour couch potatoes" because all they want to do is enjoy the easy life. They are not hyper active and when they are retired, they are really RETIRED and we even have a neighborhood rabbit that seems to like our Greyhound and the feeling is mutual so there you go. Unless you have actually owned one you would never know.
 

avalon

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Why would he sneak them to you? Based on your accounts why wouldn't the owners/trainers leave them in the parking lot?

I understand that there is a stigma associated with racing dogs. However, at the same time, I have to ask have you ever walked a greyhound without a leash? These dogs are bread to do what they do and it's even more cruel to entrust them to a 'forever home' that kennels them or lives in an area where the dog cannot run. It's akin to taking a chef out of a restaurant and serving them Hamburger Helper for the rest of there lives.

This entire incident was the work of one individual who went out of his way to cover up what he was doing.

The management at Ebro is distraught over this, not due to the negative publicity, but due to the treatment of the dogs. They are in the process of correcting the supervision of the dogs.

If you don't agree then by all means continue to raise hell and protest, keep in mind that Ebro is one of the largest employers in that area and many families will be affected by your snap judgment.
I do hope that the management is truly upset on behalf of the dogs and not just the bad press. Maybe they did not know about this particular incident, I can not say for certain. I still think the industry is wrong in general, but I am sorry for the employees who make their living at the track. It is not a snap judgement.
 

avalon

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Apr 21, 2008
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You take pictures for a living, so do paparazzi, should we protest and boycott you?
That is a bit of a stretch, even for a you. I don't boycott the pharmacy because somebody else sells crack on the corner. The card room comment is from my husband, I don't neccessarily agree with that part. Maybe "gaming" is a better use of the facility and a better job for the employees too.
 

shellak

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Jan 21, 2008
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Why would he sneak them to you? Based on your accounts why wouldn't the owners/trainers leave them in the parking lot?

I understand that there is a stigma associated with racing dogs. However, at the same time, I have to ask have you ever walked a greyhound without a leash? These dogs are bread to do what they do and it's even more cruel to entrust them to a 'forever home' that kennels them or lives in an area where the dog cannot run. It's akin to taking a chef out of a restaurant and serving them Hamburger Helper for the rest of there lives.

This entire incident was the work of one individual who went out of his way to cover up what he was doing.

The management at Ebro is distraught over this, not due to the negative publicity, but due to the treatment of the dogs. They are in the process of correcting the supervision of the dogs.

If you don't agree then by all means continue to raise hell and protest, keep in mind that Ebro is one of the largest employers in that area and many families will be affected by your snap judgment.


you clearly have a connection to the track and know nothing about adopting greyhounds. i do know since i've had one since 2005. greyhounds do not need a lot of exercise or space. they are very content being walked on a leash. they are bred (not "bread", like you said, which is a food) for racing because it's all about making money...greed. these dogs are crated for most of the day. what happens to these dogs has been exposed before - catch the episode of "real sports" on HBO where they show a happy go lucky greyhound in a vet's office one minute, then being dumped into a large garbage bag the next. dog racing has been banned in many states...it was eliminated in masssachusetts by voter referendum in 2008 with a 2 year moratorium to place the dogs and for workers to find new employment. if you need to make a living this way, you might want to think about another profession. i'm betting most of the workers are seasonal, anyway, because if there were fulltime people around all year, surely one of the them would have found 33 dead dogs, ya think????
 

Koa

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Oops sorry, I just spotted an earlier post about walking a Grey off the leash. Yes I have and they DO NOT run away. They are very devoted pets and very laid back. Once they are retired they are called "40 mile an hour couch potatoes" because all they want to do is enjoy the easy life. They are not hyper active and when they are retired, they are really RETIRED and we even have a neighborhood rabbit that seems to like our Greyhound and the feeling is mutual so there you go. Unless you have actually owned one you would never know.
I know nothing about greyhounds, so thanks for educating me on that. Sounds like greyhounds would make excellent pets.

Jobs in Ebro -- my thought is that if Ebro Dog Track cared about its future and its employees, it would at least keep an eye on the dogs and dog owners who lease kennels on property and race there. I'm not against dog racing, or gambling, but I think the track owners should care enough about their business future to give a damn about their golden eggs (the dogs).

It's like any other business, there are crooks and shysters in every industry, but that doesn't make the industry bad or wrong. Industries need more self-policing, with high standards, and anytime someone steps out of line, they need to be kicked hard by everyone else in the industry who looks bad as result of the negative actions of the few.
 

Matt J

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Well I'm clearly in the wrong for my misspelling. :roll: A friend of mine had 2 rescue greyhounds. We walked them one time and they got off the leash, they were gone in about 5 seconds chasing something. They did come back, but he was extremely upset and said it had happened before. I'll stop posting about my personal experience and just stick with the hysteria that seems to be brewing.

As far as a connection with the track, I don't have one other than having played cards there on occasion.

As I understand it the management is currently looking into CCTV for the kennels so that they, the trainers, and the guards can monitor them 24 hours a day at the track and remotely to prevent this kind of thing or any abuse.
 

Matt J

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That is a bit of a stretch, even for a you. I don't boycott the pharmacy because somebody else sells crack on the corner. The card room comment is from my husband, I don't neccessarily agree with that part. Maybe "gaming" is a better use of the facility and a better job for the employees too.

How so? You (we're not supposed to share screen names on sowal) advocated boycotting the track and the card room based on an independent individuals actions. My point is perfectly valid that if that reasoning is used then we should boycott photographers because some paparazzi killed Princess Diana.
 

avalon

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Apr 21, 2008
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How so? You (we're not supposed to share screen names on sowal) advocated boycotting the track and the card room based on an independent individuals actions. My point is perfectly valid that if that reasoning is used then we should boycott photographers because some paparazzi killed Princess Diana.
OK, I see what you are saying. I guess my feeling is one bad apple busted could point a spotlight on many more abuses. Granted, not to this extreme, but even under "normal" conditions what a terrible life (and death) for the dogs! I must admit that I hope that the public will see that the dog racing business is not a savory affair and not support it in general. I have nothing against consenting adults spending their money in card rooms or casinos. Marty says he tried to sign in but could not- I will caution him about the rules. Have a nice evening. l
 

Matt J

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OK, I see what you are saying. I guess my feeling is one bad apple busted could point a spotlight on many more abuses. Granted, not to this extreme, but even under "normal" conditions what a terrible life (and death) for the dogs! I must admit that I hope that the public will see that the dog racing business is not a savory affair and not support it in general. I have nothing against consenting adults spending their money in card rooms or casinos. Marty says he tried to sign in but could not- I will caution him about the rules. Have a nice evening. l

I understand what you are saying as well. Unfortunately in Florida to have a card room you have to have either A) a dog track or B) Native American heritage. I think you can also have one with a jai alai operation.
 

tsutcli

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Jan 14, 2008
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Another interesting fact. Dog tracks in Florida are not state regulated and Florida is the only state where tracks are NOT regulated in the entire country! We also have half of all the tracks here so this does not make sense to me. If Ebro was a regulated track, they would have state regulators at the track daily and they would be able to check on all the kennels on a regular basis. They also check on the dogs on a regular basis and make sure they are drug free. There would also be a Vet on staff for the dogs. In the meantime if racing in this state continues but I personally would like to see it stopped, you would hope that Ebro and the other tracks in this state become regulated like all the other tracks in this county. We do need more legislation to protect these dogs that have no voice! That may be the reason Williams was able to sneak in and race his dogs at Ebro in spite of the fact that he had a record of drugging his dogs three different times and not two as I previously stated. If Ebro was a regulated track, they would have kept an eye on those dogs and the tragedy inside that kennel would not have occurred.
 
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